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Genie - welcome! And great point about the various names for the spinnaker - aka..."asymmetrical investment", "hood ornament" or my favorite "mistake". Are you an anthropologist (social or other)?

And, hey, your tales fit in here just as much as anyone else's - racer or cruiser. Doesn't matter at all. This isn't an exclusive club, dude - though some wanted to make it that at some point. It's kind of like the UN of big sailing. As pointed out then, it's purely about pushing limits. So how about one of those BFS's?

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Okay - let's set some more general parameters to focus in a bit...

Boats in the 30'-40' range, typically crewed by 2-3. Essentially, what most 12-Pack-Trevors are sailing around out there. And racing counts - with the understood caveat that racing dictates less attention to comfort issues...

That said, it sounds like we're coming to a general consensus that, as far as windspeed goes, 35+/- (or Force 7) is the line at which it goes from a difficult-but-"fun" challenge, to a hope-I-get-home-in-one-piece prayfest.

For those of you that sail it, does open ocean change this equation due to sea state - or does this generally stand?

T's also right in saying there's a lot of grey area here (and I don't think he was talking about Cam's head). So I know this too is a loaded question because you can't run to shore when it gets nasty - but we're just trying to establish a general, realistic rule-of-thumb here based on sailors' experiences....

And to basically say - what in the hell were you guys thinking letting me go out on my little Ike sail - I could have been freaking killed!!!!
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There's a sailor off California complaining about how difficult it is in 25k winds, broken windvane and saltwater contaminated tanks. Not bad for less than a week at sea!

"Either way, Chuck Norris has been steering the boat all night, which is a huge relief, as the wind has been howling 25 knots and seas are huge. It is currently cold, rainy, overcast, and very very windy. At least three huge waves broadsided the boat and broke OVER the cockpit last night. I was only in the cockpit for one of them. The cold huge mass of water struck totally suprising me. Luckily I had a strong footing and my leg secured my in place and I was only slammed into the side of the cockpit. (It was dark and I couldn't see the huge wave coming for me)"
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I thought he had bad hips from all that Tae-Kwon-Fu stuff he did in "Walker: Texas Ranger". You gotta give it to a washed-up action star with titanium in his torso who just wants to live the dream. BTW - his leg was secured in place because when the joints get too cold from seawater the legs straighten out into a tripod (counting the tiller of course).

BTW - I like "crying" better - but I understand the call of ambassador-ship.

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I can see that. If you're used to Bay sailing in 25 kts and suddenly are faced with the same wind speed on the ocean where the fetch can be 4000+ miles, yeah the waves would seem huge. Ya figure 4-6' wind waves on top of 8-10' swells, you do the math.
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Honestly, Cam. I'm looking through his website - and this guy has quite a story. And no one can say he ain't got follow through (i.e. - cajones). Fair winds RJ. Go, man, go!

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Ouch! That got in somebody's pocket.
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