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I'd contact the publisher of the newspaper... and tell them what you said here... a reporter not capable of recognizing and telling the truth is something we don't need.
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I'd contact the publisher of the newspaper... and tell them what you said here... a reporter not capable of recognizing and telling the truth is something we don't need.
Human tragedy and sympathy sell better than the truth!!

P.S. As of this morning the boat is still sitting there! This guy is typical of the society we live in today where nothing is "my" fault it's "your" fault. Did you read the part how the USCG did "nothing" to help him remove the boat? FYI it' not their job, you schmuck. The USCG is not a US taxpayer funded baby sitter for your boat when it comes to your inadequacies/shortcomings or a towing service!
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Unfortunately true... but allowing idiots like this to get away with lying about what they've done is a crime IMHO. If the paper printed the truth about his actions, don't you think the state would be far more motivated to go after him for the costs of removing the wreck and cleaning up the mess it left behind??
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I saw this on NH news two days ago, there will be no salvage rights, the coasties are on the job looking for the owner. There was also another boat off it's mooring from Pepprell Cove due to high winds and waves, same results.
This happened about 1 KM from where I moor my Pearson P28-2.
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I saw this on NH news two days ago, there will be no salvage rights, the coasties are on the job looking for the owner. There was also another boat off it's mooring from Pepprell Cove due to high winds and waves, same results.
This happened about 1 KM from where I moor my Pearson P28-2.
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Wind speeds for Monday, October 20th, when this boat washed up, as measured by NOAA at their Isle of Shoals location, station IOSN3, were not storm force. These were conditions rather typical of October in the North Atlantic. His ground tackle should have been able to handle considerably more than even the highest wind gusts for that day. This is clear negligence.

Every other boat in Plaice Cove had been hauled in early September by people with a clue. His was the LONE boat there for a long time.

Bellow are the data as measured by IOSN3 the closest weather station to Plaice Cove for the day.

Highest average wind speeds for the entire day were measured at 10.8 m/s (meters per second) this translates to only 24.2 MPH or a mere 21 Knots. If you average out the time between 12:00 a.m and 4:00 p.m. the winds were averaging bellow 20 knots. Again, this is negligence! Any boat owner who does not have adequate ground tackle for 20 to 40 knots, minimum, is being reckless & negligent.

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Even 30-35 knots steady is inexcusable but low to mid 20's? C'mon that's just being reckless, ignorant or negligent..
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neglegence on the part of the reporters, but what's new there?
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Boat is still there..

Just an FYI update. It appears to be exactly what I had predicted. The owner of this boat Barry Howlit has abandoned it and now it's up to the taxpayers of NH to foot the bill.

Here's the story: Hampton parks department to haul away abandoned boat
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The state of NH has a fairly effective AG's office. They recently made the news for their (fairly) new policy of billing unprepared hikers for SAR costs. I would expect that they'll remove the boat--and go after the owner for the expenses, starting with tax liens and salary liens and asset seizures and all those other good things that governments can do.

And he'll get the opportunity to pay civil service or union rates (top dollar) for the job, too.
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So, I gotta' ask: who got the winches off the boat? Tim, you or someone else - a seal perhaps? No mention is made of diesel of other fuel the boat might have had on board. What about a salt water submerged engine?
Anchoring on the ocean coast is only something an amateur would do.
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