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Electric winches don't help flake and stow sails, as I've said before.
I haven't flaked a sail since I sold my 25 foot yacht. To stow the sails I wind a handle.
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That was me... but the sails on a 40' monohull are pretty heavy... IIRC, one sailor said that the maximum size of a sail he'd want to handle is 500 sq. ft... any larger, it just gets too awkward.

Steel boats sink quite nicely... ever hear of the Titanic. Most modern multihulls are built using buoyant foam or wood cored composites, and as such are very unlikely to sink.

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Ah, see I saw the post about how a cat 40 was like a monohull 55 (can't remember the exact number). So I thought maybe that was meaning that 55 footers were couple sailable in mono format. I pretty much think she wouldn't consider a monohull but want to ensure comparing equally sailable type stuff for our discussion purposes. We are going out on a 40 foot mono next weekend but with 4 people. Should be fun regardless.

I believe her major concern on monohulls is the ballast and sinking. Maybe a steel hull solves that, dunno.
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An unsinkable monohull

The Belgian Elan boats are unsinkable, so you may want to look at those. personally I don't like cruising cats, I think they defeat the purpose. If you can live with the space-constraints, go for a Trimaran - Others here know more about specific makes (esp. in Northern America) but I've crewed on a Dragonfly and loved it. Some of the bigger ones have decent accomodations for two, but that's probably just my preferences.
For the record, I currently sail a 35' monohull, and won't go up in size, as this is about the maximum that my wife can handle alone.
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Elan Belgium! Don't you mean Etap Belgium? But they just got bought out by Dehler, so they are now German.
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Elan Belgium! Don't you mean Etap Belgium? But they just got bought out by Dehler, so they are now German.
Sorry, I meant ETAP! I heard that they were bought by Dehler, and I know that Dehler is in trouble financially right now. I really hope both brands will make it through all of the financial turmoil...
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Well the Etaps are unsinkable, but that refers to water not finances.
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Gotta love the Etap. What other boat can sail to a boatshow with the thru-hulls open?
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Most trimarans and catamarans could do that... What's your point???
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The Etap 37 is affordable, alas there is nothing in between that and a 46 which has a substantially lumpier price. I know the wife's biggest issue with a monohull is thinking about it sinking so this gives something to think about. To the extent a properly made Cat would be faster, I still think they would be safer (in terms of less time to be at risk of exposure to inclement weather on a passage).
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Does that depend on your "most feared event"? Mono-hullers have to worry about knock-downs and pitch-poling, losing their rigging, but a good boat usually ends upright and survivable. Multi-hulls have a wee inversion problem, which is usually not reversible without a crane. As there are many more monohulls circumnavigating than multi-hulls, we don't have a good statistic on which is the more likely event in a given storm situation. So it's down to percepton of risk.

If your most feared event is pirate attack, a multi-hull might both run faster and provide a more stable gun platform.

Then there is surviving a whale attack, hitting a semi-submerged container at speed, it's all about perception of risk. I see multihulls need bigger anchors, and cruisers anchor alot. Which type is more likely to find a man over board, given a certain delay in noticing the event?

But for most people, the most common feared event is an embarressing failed mooring attempt infront of a large and critical audience.
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