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Umm.. 50 nm in 36 hours... was he sailing in freaking circles???? A 25' boat has a hull speed of maybe 5.5 knots... so with any kind of decent wind, he should have made that distance in 18 hours at the outside...if he was beating...
While it doesn't say what kind of 25' boat it was, there are quite a few that could have made the voyage, if the sailor were up to the task.
I'd agree with Charlie, that boat was wasted.
BTW, I hope the guy in the Hatteras incident gets billed for it... How do you run aground in 56' boat with no land in site... how long was he down below for??? BTW, if you read the article ScottBR posted a link to, this was the SECOND TIME this guy was rescued in ONE WEEK.
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11-21-2008
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Great links Scott...thanks!
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Hey, no problem...... see I'm not just a dumb Hunter owner 
Dog, the first time was for lines wrapped around his prop.
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11-21-2008
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Great link, but no, I've never heard of him (would I admit it if I had?) and the boat is registered in New York.
If it's a big steel ketch from Toronto, yes, odds are I might have seen it, but not in this case.
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11-21-2008
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How do you run aground in 56' boat with no land in site... how long was he down below for???
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Obviously he was only looking AFT. Had he turned around and looked FORWARD he would have seen the BFS! BIG FREAKING SHORELINE.
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11-21-2008
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Umm... I've dived on a boat's prop myself... doesn't take that much to cut the line on it... granted, its a bit more complicated at sea, but not all that impossible.... just wear a harness and keep yourself attached to the damn boat.
IMHO, ANYONE that calls the USCG TWICE IN ONE WEEK, for the same boat, has got a serious problem... How much did it cost us to have that Destroyer crew sitting around trying to fix his rudder and prop problem??? How much did he pay for it??
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Sailors on the Gonzalez, which was 200 miles off the coast for training exercises, had spent six hours repairing the Gypsy Dane's rudder and cutting off line from a fouled shaft and screw.
The two-masted vessel had been damaged in a storm, and the rudder was in bad shape. Crew members built new parts and overhauled the rudder. A rescue swimmer and another sailor also labored for more than an hour to cut a line that had twisted about 50 times around the propeller and shaft.
The Coast Guard then determined that the Gypsy Dane and Oger were fit enough to continue to Charleston.
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Dog, the first time was for lines wrapped around his prop.
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You know what the first rule of sailing is? ...Love. You can learn all the math in the 'verse, but you take
a boat to the sea you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turning of the worlds. Love keeps
her going when she oughta fall down, tells you she's hurting 'fore she keens. Makes her a home.
—Cpt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity (edited)
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11-22-2008
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Umm... I've dived on a boat's prop myself... doesn't take that much to cut the line on it... granted, its a bit more complicated at sea, but not all that impossible.... just wear a harness and keep yourself attached to the damn boat.
IMHO, ANYONE that calls the USCG TWICE IN ONE WEEK, for the same boat, has got a serious problem... How much did it cost us to have that Destroyer crew sitting around trying to fix his rudder and prop problem??? How much did he pay for it??
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Sad for the boat,not the owner.
As for the cost of Destroyer? I am pulled both ways for assistance at sea.Personally i would do whatever i could for the man.Same as we all should.As to would i ACCEDENTALLY knock a seacock off??? 
Happly the sea culled the heard with only the death of what looks like a nice ship....
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11-22-2008
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Just as an update...the boat is still aground and the major attempt last week failed to move her. Need bigger stuff to get her off. Don't know if owner can afford it. No insurance on the boat is what I hear.
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That's pretty sad 
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I'm not saying that assistance shouldn't be provided...but if the idiot has to have assistance more than once in a week's time... I think he should be paying for it... ala SeaTow or TowBoat US, not fawning the cost of his assistance off on us taxpayers.
BTW, Mark, you're evil, but I like that idea...
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Sad for the boat,not the owner.
As for the cost of Destroyer? I am pulled both ways for assistance at sea.Personally i would do whatever i could for the man.Same as we all should. As to would i ACCEDENTALLY knock a seacock off???
Happly the sea culled the heard with only the death of what looks like a nice ship....
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You know what the first rule of sailing is? ...Love. You can learn all the math in the 'verse, but you take
a boat to the sea you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turning of the worlds. Love keeps
her going when she oughta fall down, tells you she's hurting 'fore she keens. Makes her a home.
—Cpt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity (edited)
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11-23-2008
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Originally Posted by camaraderie
Just as an update...the boat is still aground and the major attempt last week failed to move her. Need bigger stuff to get her off. Don't know if owner can afford it. No insurance on the boat is what I hear.
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do you think if he had insurance they would cover "sandwich related incidence", or would that be an "act of sandwich"?
as for the first guy, he could make better time but we don't know if he had any wind. he could have been ghosting along (1.3+ NM/Hr.) because of weather, not wanting to start the engine because fuel reserves on a 25ft are limited. Can a boat that size do it? Yes,
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