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I agree on the J-24 but the J-30 is a close second.....
Name another boat of the same era in the same price range that can do double digits SOG off the breeze, has a vibrant OD fleet, and is still competitive in PHRF. The J30 can be had - easily - for $25K ready to go. It is a breeze to single hand and is easily comfortable enough to cruise for shorter periods. I know skippers that have raced the Chi-Mac and Isla Del Sol (P'Cola to Isla Mujeres) on their J30s, some have crossed the Atlantic, others the Pacific.

Are there faster boats? Yup. More comfortable boats? OF COURSE.

But what other boat does all of the above at its price point?

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Okay Sailnet. You've got the most desired demographics in sailing (dudes with actual cash). How did SA scoop you?

In the mean time, people here are complaining about $99 GPS orders. Do I need to spell it out for you?

You're killin' me here.
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DC rocks... he took a 60' catamaran and proceeded to kick the everliving daylights out of a much bigger, much more favored monohull.

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I read his book, Sail Like A Champion

Sail Like a Champion: Advanced Racing and Cruising Techniques by Dennis Conner, Michael Levitt (Used, New, Out-of-Print) - Alibris

the first year I crewed for five years in club racing. Two firsts, two thirds and a second later, I like to think Dennis had good tips.
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Giu,

Thanks for pointing this out -- I don't get over to SA very often, and would have missed the interview otherwise.

DC and SA did a great job with that one.

P.S. Retclt, thanks for the link.


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Dennis Conner J-24/30

Dennis Conner's statement sounds like "sour grapes".
I've never sailed a J-24 or a J-30. I always liked a J-30 and would one day consider owning one.
So why would Dennis Conner bash the 24, and others here place the J-30 a close second? Hull form? Balance? Sail plan? Safety? Envy?
Would someone care to write an objective statement regarding these two boats?
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Well being and early buyer in 1981 when they had already sold over 2700 boats in just a few years with no real advertising compared to what is done now i guess there were a lot of stupid people

Are J24 was NOT bought as a race boat BUT a small affordable weekend boat when your 26 years old and you don't want to sail a bathtub it was the best boat at the time and will still go to weather as well as any comparable current boat

It was used a weekend boat with a few solar shower bags until we had children and slowly drifted into a race boat

So here we are in 2008 i was stupid enough to go buy another 1981 J24 and what do i find, as bad as race boat it might be i can still go out with my now grown son (24) and daughter(21) and place in races


If you really want to laugh look at the FABULOUS Flying Tiger 10 videos on youtube 6 200# guys needed for rail meat and the boat is still tender as hell

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Thanks, Tommays. I am just uncertain why someone as influential as Dennis Conner is, would bash the Johnston's design in such a way?
Are they racing rivals? Maybe his remark wasn't meant to be serious.

And there is no need to continue this thread - it just struck me as a curious, uncalled for statement made by an icon of professional sailing, spoken during a formal interview.
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