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Very nice video. Thanks for the demonstration of a quick-stop heaving-to.

I, for one, appreciate the effort and time you take to make these videos. It is very valuable for a relatively inexperienced sailor like myself to see examples of how others do even some of the basic maneuvers. I can't wait to get out and try this technique to see how far way from a MOB I end up (unfortunately, for those of us on the Great Lakes, it will be at least 4-5 months)

Keep the videos coming, and thanks again.

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We fly a symetrical chute, with a pole. The procedure is to tack, all standing, and sort out the mess afterwards. That is what we did. It works equally well. We had no damage to the 3/4oz spinnaker.
Wait a minute! You heave to with the symetrical spinnaker poled up? And you say the procedure is the same as with the jib? Wow! I'm looking forward to a sailing day with some 5 or 6 kt wind to try it...
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Real gentlemen never sail to windward...

That describes most of sailing...

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I'd love to see the video, but when I CLICK HERE NOW I get some wierd Portuguese werewolf site. What gives?
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There is a technique for heaving-to in MOB.

1) Heave-to as soon as MOB is noted.

2) Beam reach a little until MOB is abeam of helm

3) WITH SAILS SHEETED IN, sail downwind until MOB is off the quarter

4) Head up onto a close haul / close reach until MOB is off the quarter

5) Heave-to again, use a shroud as a guide to drift down to MOB.

Different boats respond differently; e.g., self-tacking jibs may not heave-to. Practice is the key.

One person can do this and be able to snag the MOB on the leeward side. In addition, you never lose sight of the MOB.

If you are doing a MOB from a beam reach or broad reach, sail back so you can heave-to.

One criticism is that the boat will drift into the MOB causing an injury. In my experience the water being pushed by the boat going to leeward will keep the MOB away from the hull.

Try it - you might like it.

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Nice Giu.

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Giu's use of the term "heaving to" is perhaps not apt in a MOB scenario. What we did with the spinnaker up is called a "Quickstop" maneuver. The main idea with a Quickstop is to keep the boat close to the MOB, slow it down, and get the boat back to the victim as soon as possible. The main idea with heaving to is to put the boat on a better angle and speed to the wind and waves so as to put up with bad weather over a long time. I would not want to "heave to" with a spinnaker up, but would be happy to tack with one up (as we did, several times) if it meant picking up a victim sooner.
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There is a technique for heaving-to in MOB.

1) Heave-to as soon as MOB is noted.

2) Beam reach a little until MOB is abeam of helm

3) WITH SAILS SHEETED IN, sail downwind until MOB is off the quarter

4) Head up onto a close haul / close reach until MOB is off the quarter

5) Heave-to again, use a shroud as a guide to drift down to MOB.

Different boats respond differently; e.g., self-tacking jibs may not heave-to. Practice is the key.

One person can do this and be able to snag the MOB on the leeward side. In addition, you never lose sight of the MOB.

If you are doing a MOB from a beam reach or broad reach, sail back so you can heave-to.

One criticism is that the boat will drift into the MOB causing an injury. In my experience the water being pushed by the boat going to leeward will keep the MOB away from the hull.

Try it - you might like it.

Jack
One reason the "Quickstop" was developed was because people who go off on a reach until the MOB is abeam, then sail downwind with the sails pulled in, then go to close-hauled, and then heave-to are so busy checking through the steps and the procedures that they lose sight of the MOB. If the directive is simply to tack - no matter what- it keeps you closer to the victim and slows you down. Both these things help make recovery of the victim quicker and more certain. Someone trying to do a quickstop may end up going through the reaching/downwind/upwind/heave-to scenario, but doesn't have to. While the reach/return system may work, keeping it simple may work better.
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One reason the "Quickstop" was developed was because people who go off on a reach until the MOB is abeam, then sail downwind with the sails pulled in, then go to close-hauled, and then heave-to are so busy checking through the steps and the procedures that they lose sight of the MOB. If the directive is simply to tack - no matter what- it keeps you closer to the victim and slows you down. Both these things help make recovery of the victim quicker and more certain. Someone trying to do a quickstop may end up going through the reaching/downwind/upwind/heave-to scenario, but doesn't have to. While the reach/return system may work, keeping it simple may work better.
I have done the heave-to method with hundreds of students over the past 12years. The issue you raise has never been a problem.

Heaving-to really slows the boat down and the MOB is always on the same side of the boat and close in, hence we never lose sight. When you have to tack, the MOB will disappear behind the bow and foresail. In addition, tacking while single handed after an MOB is no easy task. The heave-to method simply involves sailing around the MOB.

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