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Gypsy Dane Wreck Follow Up

Thought some of you would appreciate a follow up to the grounding/wreck of the Gypsy Dane off Cape Hatteras a few weeks ago. The boat is off the beach now but not yet to the yard. A real shame to have such a pretty boat with her back broken.


"If you’ve driven through Avon in the past week and a half, you’ve probably noticed something a little strange—namely, the large sailboat hogging the Ramp 38 parking lot.

The boat is the Gypsy Dane, a 50-foot sailboat that crashed into an Avon beach, about a mile south of the pier, on Saturday, Nov. 15.

After sitting on the beach for more than a week, enduring bad weather and even worse luck, the Gypsy Dane, at the behest of the Park Service, was finally moved off the beach by Steve Steiner, a licensed house mover and owner of Steiner and Daughters House Moving and Raising in Pantego, N.C.

Steiner agreed to move the boat in exchange for ownership. The owner of the boat, Yves Oger of Toronto, who was sailing the boat to Charleston, S.C., apparently had no insurance and lacked to funds to pay for the salvage operation. He has refused media interviews since he washed up on the beach, after, he reportedly said, he went below deck to make a sandwich.

Steiner dug the boat out of the sand, lifted it onto steel beams on a massive trailer, hauled it down the beach, and over Ramp 38. According to the National Park Service, which issued a special use permit for the move, the ramp had to be widened slightly and sand had to be added and packed down to make the trip up and over the ramp possible with the big boat and massive trailer.

Steiner parked the boat in the NPS parking lot until he could remove the masts and move it to dry dock at Steve Crum’s stables in Buxton.

Now, a week and half later—and almost three weeks after its arrival— the boat is still sitting in the parking lot, and the permit, required by the Park Service, that allows Steiner to take the necessary measures to move the boat off Park Service property, has expired.

Even though Steiner has not yet moved the boat off Park Service Property, which he was required to do under the conditions of the permit, NPS is willing to work with him.

"We will allow him a reasonable amount of time to move the boat," said Hatteras Island District Ranger John McCutcheon. "However, if it isn't moved in two weeks or so, I am going to be unhappy."

Initially, his main concern was making sure the boat didn’t break up on the beach, but McCutcheon now sees safety issues with the steel beams that extend past the sides of the trailer, and says he wants the boat off the parking lot before the holiday visitors arrive.

Steiner is confident that he and his crew can get the boat moved within the Park Service’s time frame, but they still have quite a bit of work to do.

First, Steiner will have to acquire permits from the North Carolina Department of Transportation in order to pull the trailer down the highway.

“They should issue the permits within a day, two days tops,” Steiner said, adding that he anticipated sending his paperwork to Raleigh by Friday, Dec. 5.

Once he receives his DOT permits, Steiner will have to arrange for a highway patrol escort from the parking lot to the stables, and, given the width of the boat, the move will most likely require closing down both lanes of traffic on Highway 12.

But perhaps the biggest challenge for Steiner, and the task most likely to put a kink in his timeline, will be removing the masts, which must be done before the boat can be moved. This will require tedious labor, careful maneuvering, and a really big crane.

He had originally planned on contracting with Murray Clark, better known as “Frisco Mo,” to tackle the project, and had hoped he would start Thursday or Friday, Dec. 4 or 5, but by Thursday night, Dec.5, their plans had fallen through because of business disagreements.

In spite of the challenges, Steiner doesn’t seem too worried.

“We’ll get it figured out,” he said with confidence. “There’s nothing we can’t move.” "

The Whole Story...Here:

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I've worked with house movers several times, a real bunch of cowboys. Everything takes 5 times as long as they say it will and never goes as planned
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Cam, thanks for the up date. I do note that you have posted this twice. Dog will be along shortly to explain the seriousness of this situation. This is not the time to take advantage of the inexperienced moderators on the site. I trust this violation will not happen again. lol
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Steiner agreed to move the boat in exchange for ownership. The owner of the boat, Yves Oger of Toronto, who was sailing the boat to Charleston, S.C., apparently had no insurance and lacked funds to pay for the salvage operation. He has refused media interviews since he washed up on the beach, after, he reportedly said, he went below deck to make a sandwich.
This quote has me confused, on many levels. It was a 50-footer -- and appeared to be in good condition. Why would somebody who could afford that boat, forego insurance, if they couldn't afford to self-insure?

Or are we discussing someone that was uninsurable?


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You'd think that a former moderator would respect his former colleagues enough so as not to spam the forums with multiple posts on the exact same subject... I guess when Cam took off his moderator's hat, he threw it in the head and did his business on it... forgetting everything about moderation in the process.

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Another story:

N.C. boat rescued, repaired, beached now abandoned | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com

Some friends of mine from Toronto knew this guy, or knew of him, because he apparently built his boat over years of work just off a major road in the northwest part of the city and I guess was a bit of a landmark.

It sounds like the guy just gave up...no insurance...no will to persevere...and I have to wonder if that "I went below to make a sandwich" was actually missing "and fell asleep for six hours instead". I have to wonder, given that he apparently got into trouble the week before he beached his boat.

Now it's taking up twelve spots in a parking lot...very sad.
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Thought some might be interested in the epilogue to all this:
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Clark says Oger is a retired metallurgic engineer, who bought the boat for about $150,000 and had “everything he owned” invested in the boat or on it.

“He had very little experience sailing,” Clark says.


What a surprise!! All the more reason to be off in the North Atlantic winter attempting to singlehand a 50+ foot boat!!


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Was the keel lost, or was it removed for transport?

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Geez, are they handing out stupid pills this winter, or is every winter on the east coast like this? Not much sailing experience, 50 footer, North Atlantic, Winter. Pick any two seems like asking for trouble, he apparently went 4 or 4.

Very sad, glad the guy got out with his life, sounds like he might of been lucky at that.

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The one thing I can say from what people have told me, the frontal systems passing along the east coast this year are stronger, more frequent and less predictable. There's not a lot of excuse for going singlehanded when you don't have much experience, but the only way to gain experience is to, well, get experience. We don't have much experience (4 years owning a boat and pretty much only sailing it on a lake, my only experience before that was racing on other people's boats, and my wife just learned a couple of years ago), but we're getting more experience each time we have a problem. I think this guy was a bit insane going out singlehanded on a 50 footer with little experience though...

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