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Old 12-10-2008
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"Plan C" Boat

I am blessed with access to several boats. Some I can sail just about any time I want to. I'm thinking however that as an insurance policy I would like to get a "Plan C" boat. The idea is that if my friends fall through or I'm in the process of buying or selling a bigger boat I would like to have something tucked away that I could pop in the water and not miss a chunk of our short New England season.

Now of course you are going to say. What do you have in mind? How much do you want to spend, how many people etc. Well since this is just an emergency boat there are few real deal breakers.

The following is my wish list. I know I'm not going to get everything probably not more that 50% but that's part of the fun.
  • Fast (This is the least likely to happen since I want a small boat with room inside)
  • Headroom (5' 6") Not absolutely necessary but my wife claims she will no go on a boat she can not stand up in. But she may change her mind. PoP Top?
  • Enclosed head (Wife again) Again she may not be using the boat much.
  • Tailorable and truck launch-able (This is actually the biggest plus as I could just park it in my backyard and forget about it unless it was needed)
  • Tiller, Wheel (don't care)
  • How may people to sleep (Two max)
  • Usage (Long Island Sound day sail with a couple, overnight camping 2 maybe 4 nights in my wildest dreams. (My dreams are rather tame)
  • Price (I may not splash this boat for a whole season so I want to keep yearly costs to a minimum. So I will probably not pay for insurance. I have a place to put it on a mooring so that will not cost much. So I don't want to spend more than I'm willing to loose, maybe 9,000 but who knows for the right boat?
  • Size (Probably 23' to 28'.
So what do you figure are some good options?

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Funny you should mention the Triton. My neighbor has one.
Not exactly tailorable but certainly a classic.
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The Telstar 28 would fit most of your requirements...

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I am blessed with access to several boats. Some I can sail just about any time I want to. I'm thinking however that as an insurance policy I would like to get a "Plan C" boat. The idea is that if my friends fall through or I'm in the process of buying or selling a bigger boat I would like to have something tucked away that I could pop in the water and not miss a chunk of our short New England season.

Now of course you are going to say. What do you have in mind? How much do you want to spend, how many people etc. Well since this is just an emergency boat there are few real deal breakers.

The following is my wish list. I know I'm not going to get everything probably not more that 50% but that's part of the fun.
  • Fast (This is the least likely to happen since I want a small boat with room inside)
It's a trimaran and mine sails at 9-12 knots regularly, far faster than a monohull of the same LOA.
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  • Headroom (5' 6") Not absolutely necessary but my wife claims she will no go on a boat she can not stand up in. But she may change her mind. PoP Top?
Headroom is 6' throughout most of the cabin
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  • Enclosed head (Wife again) Again she may not be using the boat much.
Head is forward and can be closed off using a curtain.
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  • Tailorable and truck launch-able (This is actually the biggest plus as I could just park it in my backyard and forget about it unless it was needed)
Trailerable, and does not require a wide load permit in most states as the boat folds to 8' 6" wide.
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Tiller steered.
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  • How may people to sleep (Two max)
Sleeps three pretty comfortably—starboard side turns into double berth, port side is a single.
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  • Usage (Long Island Sound day sail with a couple, overnight camping 2 maybe 4 nights in my wildest dreams. (My dreams are rather tame)
Longest trip taken in one so far has been 3500 nm, from St. Pete, FL, through the Caribbean, to Guatemala and Honduras. So, it should handle a week-long trip and daysailing quite well. Also, unlike many trailerable boats, the Telstar has a full galley, with optional refrigerator and a full head with holding tank.
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  • Price (I may not splash this boat for a whole season so I want to keep yearly costs to a minimum. So I will probably not pay for insurance. I have a place to put it on a mooring so that will not cost much. So I don't want to spend more than I'm willing to loose, maybe 9,000 but who knows for the right boat?
Not gonna happen...
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So what do you figure are some good options?
It's 27' 6" LOA... However, since the boat is fairly new, you're not going to find one in that price range.

Most of the other boats that are small and trailerable, are going to be considerably smaller, have a much more difficult mast raising system, and be much slower.

Here's a video of my boat out during a SCA...

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Cool video Dog,

btw, who was that guy who went forward without a PDF or restaint ???? I know that wasn't you, cuz you wouldn't set such a bad example
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Do as I say, not do as I do...

Besides, it wasn't that bad out.. only 25-30 knots, gusting up to 35, and 7-9' seas... relatively calm by all accounts. If I were on a tippy leadmine, I would have been tethered in and wearing a PFD...

Funniest comment of the day was when Kate said, "Hey, I think I just got sprayed"... after we had been out in those conditions for almost two hours. I pointed out that on her father's monohull, we would have been in full foul weather gear and soaked before we got the sails up.

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david,

This boat doesn't fit all your requirements. But I just thought I'd mention it, as a possible low-cost option:

Quickstep 24

Another one that comes to mind, that would be more performance oriented is the Beneteau First 235, or the pricier First 24.

Just some suggestions for comparison purposes...
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Don't mean to be negative, but I thought I read that one of the OP's requirements was "Trailerable" and "Launch-able" with his truck.

I might be wrong, But the only suggestion I see so far that meets this requirement is the Telstar.

Than again, we don't know how high a priority "Trailerable" is.
Maybe some more feedback from the OP is necessary.

David, how high of a priority is Trailerable?
I would think that this would have an impact on what boats would be suggested.
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