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Is it worth it to salvage adrift/derelict sailboats?

I've been thinking about the sailboats that are occasionally left adrift, like the one a few hundred miles north of Hawaii.

What happens if you go out and tow it back in? Has anyone every heard of anyone getting a check that made the effort worthwhile? Please PM me with details, if you have them.
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.. I mean, is it worth it beside the important fact of not letting a good sailboat go to waste? There's something honorable about preserving one.
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I know a guy who salvages sunk sailboats and refurbishes them in his spare time. He does all the work himself and every two or three years he sells a nice boat for a nice profit. Its not for everyone though since most people arent able to do 100% of the work themselves or arent able to put in the time - This guy does it as much as a hobby as a business. You would have to enjoy the work to make it worthwhile.
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For the bigger boats, I'm sure it'd be worth doing—but it woudl require an investment in capital, like a vessel capable of handling bad weather and towing said larger sailboat into harbor.
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I've been thinking about the sailboats that are occasionally left adrift, like the one a few hundred miles north of Hawaii.

What happens if you go out and tow it back in? Has anyone every heard of anyone getting a check that made the effort worthwhile? Please PM me with details, if you have them.
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If you find and tow an abandoned (adrift) vessel to a marina, and the owner wants it back, whos is it?
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There are "salvage" rights, but, a person needs to really study up on this stuff.

For myself, it not worth my time, unless a person were to ask for help. And then, we are not sure we would be compensated for our efforts.

"Pure Salvage" is the term I think you need to read up on.

BoatUS Towing Services: Towing vs Salvage

The reference is only that, and for a starting point to "learn"!
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allthumbs,

I believe the rule of the water is something to the effect of.......

If the tower uses "there" line to tow, salvage or other wise a boat, they then have rights to ownership.

Don't quote me on that one, but, that is the generally speaking right one has. There are some exceptions, such as some country's governments will claim ownership of boats that have sunk. Hence Spain with some of the gallions sunk in the 1800's as an example. Even then, it is hard for them to figure out if you found one, and brought the gold etc up with out them knowing.

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Assuming the boat is "abandoned" in "international waters".... I'd be in contact with the US Navy (if it were close) to ask them to check things out (or Coast Guard if close enough to US waters).

I have to ask... if someone asks for help and you "toss them a line" - how does one figure it's now your salvage, your boat, you are owed something?

Seems to me that good practice is to assist people, period.
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Interesting read:
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If the boat was adrift and in reasonable danger of being hit and sunk, you are probably entitled to reasonable salvage costs for the vessel. As a general rule, the greater the risk to you and your vessel in "salvaging" the other boat, the greater the salvage costs you're entitled to. YMMV... IANAL.
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