Well my day really sucked.

[boofus]

Not to be total jerk,
But if you cant raise the resources to float the thing, how are you going to finance the rebuild? I say this because of my own experience dumping many many thousands into a "project" boat, only to stand back and wonder where the money went, and scared to death of how much more it is going to take to get to where I want to be. I easily spent a grand on epoxy and glass just to plug a couple old throughulls, rebuild my engine bed and do a little re-tabbing.... There was a thread recently about bright eyed, optimistic cheap-boat "suckers", and I couldn't agree more, because I fell for it myself. There is a blinding stupor that falls over people as they are consumed with their dreams. Save up buy a boat that is in good shape and go sailing....

[MorganPaul]

Not to be total jerk,
But if you cant raise the resources to float the thing, how are you going to finance the rebuild?

You are not a jerk. This is a really good point. I think this talk of getting her out of the mud is a pipe dream.

[thinwater]

Boofus --

That post doesn't make you a jerk, total or partial. I am pretty sure that the P-36 is beyond reasonable repair. The reason I continue to pursue this salvage has several parts: 1) if I can't raise and repair, maybe I can use some of the parts when I do find a better starting point, 2) if I sell a few of the parts that I don't need, it might help me get to a better starting point, 3) I am curious about what it takes to raise a vessel in this situation, and 4) I agreed to try to raise her, and I am not the sort to abandon anything at the first obstacle. Besides, there is a veritable chorus of people singing the "Charleston Harbor Sunken Sailboat Blues" - I know the words and I'm trying to learn the tune.

Now, if what I wanted was a skiff, I'd find one. That would negate the notion of raising a sailboat and then what would you have to read about? Ultimately, if I raise a bad sailboat, I'm closer to a good one.

Now about that skiff.....

John

[AdamLein]

I don't think I would buy the parts off this boat. Maybe the anchor? Maybe some bronze stuff?

I have enough trouble as it is keeping my dry boat in sellable condition.

Originally Posted by thinwater

The reason I continue to pursue this salvage has several parts: 1) if I can't raise and repair, maybe I can use some of the parts when I do find a better starting point, 2) if I sell a few of the parts that I don't need, it might help me get to a better starting point,

[weephee]

Hi John. Were you successful in getting a work boat for this weekend. If I didn't live so far away, I would be there to help. Canada is 18 hours away. I think what you are trying to do is admirable and even with all the critics you keep trying. I wish you the best of luck. Please don't give up and please keep us posted. Not everyone thinks you're wasting your time. Good luck
Larry

[cnc33voodoo]

Originally Posted by AdamLein

I don't think I would buy the parts off this boat. Maybe the anchor? Maybe some bronze stuff?

I have enough trouble as it is keeping my dry boat in sellable condition.

You do realise this boat was at anchor before it sunk right?.

Thinwater, As much as I wish you luck on this pointless mission, I think we will see the titanic raised before this boat.
The fact is, if you dont have the money to raise this boat professionally than you surely dont have the cash do do anything with it once you get it up.
Anything you get from salvage will not cover the costs you will accumulate getting it out and storing it.
Once you strip it what are you going to do with the rest of it?
Do you know the costs involved in the disposal?
The only thing getting this boat out of the mud will do is get the bonehead owner out of trouble and you into it.
I dont see a single reward other than saying you did it in this situation.
I would like to know what you plan do, if you have a plan, once its up?
Has the original owner given you the title for the boat?
Are you sure he ever had the title?
The last owner was a dreamer and didnt understand the responsibility involved in owning a 36 foot sailboat and look what happened.
Please dont follow in his footsteps.
You should put your efforts into a boat that isnt sunk and with your determination you will have a nice boat sooner.

[Boasun]

The poor man's method of refloating a boat... This is a simple method.
Go to a truckstop and get a couple dozen trucktire innerTubes.
Place the tubes in the appropriate spaces and inflate. This will displace the water in that space and lighten your vessel.
After you have refloated your vessel and got it on the hard for repairs... you can take those innerTubes and go to ski areas and rent them out to people who want to go tubing down snow covered mountain sides.
Thus you will recoup the money you spent buying those tubes in the first place.

Any questions??

[Pilot11]

bump! Any report from this weekend?

[thinwater]

Nothing got done this weekend because I didn't have a boat to reach the sinker. I have plans to try again in 2 weeks, when the tides are right enough, but I'm dependent on my pal with the Boston Whaler. Don't wait for an invitation - let me know if you can and will help on Saturday the 26th.

John

[artbyjody]

Originally Posted by thinwater

Boofus --

That post doesn't make you a jerk, total or partial. I am pretty sure that the P-36 is beyond reasonable repair. The reason I continue to pursue this salvage has several parts: 1) if I can't raise and repair, maybe I can use some of the parts when I do find a better starting point, 2) if I sell a few of the parts that I don't need, it might help me get to a better starting point, 3) I am curious about what it takes to raise a vessel in this situation, and 4) I agreed to try to raise her, and I am not the sort to abandon anything at the first obstacle. Besides, there is a veritable chorus of people singing the "Charleston Harbor Sunken Sailboat Blues" - I know the words and I'm trying to learn the tune.

Now, if what I wanted was a skiff, I'd find one. That would negate the notion of raising a sailboat and then what would you have to read about? Ultimately, if I raise a bad sailboat, I'm closer to a good one.

Now about that skiff.....

John

Give it up.. it is a lost cause..