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"Like all professions, it requires hands-on training."
Are you confusing training with apprenticeship? Some things need to be taught hands-on, others are just the transfer of knowledge and that works well online.
The hands-on portion of the training IS in fact required by the USCG and is still required even if you take an online class. That's why you have to log actual time on the water in a vessel, isn't it?
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Yes--I agree with you 100%. I was referring more to the plotting exercises.
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As professionals we should share truthful and accurate info with others

From: Yamsailor..."Some of the Online OUPV courses offer a service where by you can call an instructor if you have questions however the costs to speak with said instructor is approximately $100/hour. So if you call an instructor and you spend 15 minutes with them on the phone you pay $100.00. If you call them again and spend an additional 15 minutes on the phone, you pay an additional $100. The time is not prorated."

This is not accurate or truthful information. The United States Coast Guard I know would not approve such a process!! Every step of the course approval process is scrutinized by the USCG. And NO one at the NMC would approve such a process...I can prove what I say.....can you?

As professionals and Captains that represent the USCG, we should share only quality and accurate information... bad move!
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CaptRJ,

The info I am stating is correct. I will not mention the particular schools because that would be inappropriate. The instructor assistance is IN ADDITION TO the core course material as is NOT required.
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CaptRJ,

If you would like to mention a particular school that does not charge for instructor-student calling--please feel free to do so--if you think it is appropriate.
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I think some are confused and think OUPV is a boating course. I have seen more and more nautical schools accept anyone who will pay the tuition and then create dialogue to justify their actions. Anyone that has never plotted a course, corrected a compass, ventured offshore or just retired ,sold house and bought 42 foot sailboat, should first consider a basic boating course and gain sea experience prior to thinking about obtaining an OUPV... These individuals should start with the basics…Many organizations offer basic boating courses. ASA, US Powers Squadron and the USCG Aux to name a few.

With all the new state regulatory requirements, any 2009 OUPV student that has the need to sit next to someone to learn about a nautical chart or a 3 bearing fix. tells me they didn’t learn much in the state boating class..

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NONE of the three schools....only three schools in the whole nation approved for online courses!
or zero of the google results for online oupv schools.

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CaptRJ--I agree with you 100%. Unfortunately, many schools are marketing their product as a safe boating course in addition OUPV course is a cannon for the former.
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CaptRJ--I just checked the list of USCG approved online OUPV courses. As of January 29, 2009 there are no less than six schools providing this type of service.
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What type service? $100.00 conference calling with OUPV students
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