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JohnDrake 10-15-2002 06:14 AM

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To all:

I had the pleasure of talking with Liza Copeland at the Annapolis Boat show this past weekend. For those of you who might not know, she is one of the major sailing book authors who also contributes articles here on SailNet. The ones that appear on the top right of the main SailNet page. The articles that inform and inspire us, make us examine the kind of sailing we wish to do and the boats we wish to have.

Aside from being completely charming and eloquent, Liza has circumnavigated aboard a Beneteau 38 with her husband and 3 children. Reading her articles here on SailNet and elsewhere over the past few years has contributed greatly to sharpening the choice of my ultimate boat. Her articles and the many other authors that contribute here are one of the reasons I surf into SailNet as often as I do.

BUT, SailNet is going to STOP this feature on the site!!! Thats it, its over. NO MORE ARTICLES from highly experienced authors who have been there and done that!

I am very dissapointed and sad to hear this. As stated, those articles are one of the reasons I surf into SailNet....and subsequently see the ads for the sales here and BUY things.

SAM, say it ain''t so.

I think we might be able to change Sam Boyle''s mind. Sam is the owner of SailNet, a great guy and very reasonable. If enough of us email him or post here... maybe we can get the ever charming Liza back, along with everyone else!

So, I am asking the folks that come here to consider this and if they value these articles as much as I do, please EMAIL SAM and ask him to reconsider.

Sam, honestly, its good business. Content drives activity.

FREE LIZA COPELAND and bring her back!

Thanks

John

DuaneIsing 10-15-2002 06:57 AM

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Hi, John.

Staying on topic for this thread - I totally agree that the articles here are of great value. I haven''t needed to buy too much sailing gear yet, but I have and will support SailNet for all the wonderful info I find here (in the articles and message board participants). If another web site drew me away because the content started lacking at SailNet, I imagine my purchasing loyalty would move, too.

Of course, I respect Sam''s right to run the business as he sees fit. If he really believes he has to drop the articles, hopefully it will have the intended result. John''s point is one Sam should consider carefully, though. I don''t come to SailNet to read advertisements; I come for the information. While I''m here for the info, however, I do see and read the ads.

Perhaps there are alternatives to simply dropping ALL the articles - maybe post a new article every other day.

Fair winds,
Duane

jparker11 10-15-2002 09:16 AM

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Yes, it will be regrettable should SailNet discontinue the excellent article subcontent of the Home Page.

But, I sense, Mr. Boyle has bigger fish to fry. We are in a sinking economy which attacks our discretionary expenditures initially. And, the SailNet market will be the first to suffer. They are taking drastic steps to SURVIVE. If, in the near term, a reduction in overhead expense by the elimination of the articles, allows them to beef up Internet order reponse, hence, sales volume and survival, I reluctantly concede.

I have been rebuilding a little Cal, and over the last few months, Sailnet''s responsiveness has waned. I continue to give them first chance but I can''t wait for some of these items. I hope the recent changes will enable them to find a way through this difficult time. We need them!!!


SailinCowboy 10-15-2002 01:00 PM

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If the articles leave SO DO I!!!

mgullett 10-15-2002 01:55 PM

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I noticed the daily news stopped about a week ago. I check the site daily for the news and read every article, even if it''s a repeat. IF the articles disappear, so will my impulse buying as I check the site. Might as well just log on to West Marine...Sam, say it ain''t so!!

email_test 10-15-2002 02:51 PM

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As someone once said, things aren''t quite what they appear...

I also spoke with Liza at Annapolis. She is a talented writer and I told her that we''d like to continue our relationship in the Spring when we reevaluate our lineup. In the meantime, we''ve moving forward to provide you with the best content we can at a cost that the company can support...

Yes, we have made a decision to reduce some of our content acquisition. The simple reality is that we were publishing as much original content in a month as any of the mainstream sailing magazines. The rub is that they rec''d $1M in ad revenues per month and we didn''t... something had to change.

So, we went to the logs and looked at what people actually spent time on. There were several areas that enjoyed wide readership. Others not as much. We decided to keep the most popular items and reduce the others. You''ll continue to see original content every month -- just on a more realistic schedule. You won''t find the daily news because the readership, while dearly loved by us, wasn''t large. You''ll also see more focus on user-to-user features including these boards, the owner''s groups, and some other ideas we''re lining up.

Hopefully you''ll find that we''re doing a better job of targeting our resources at the things that interest the vast majority of you... rather than trying to be everything for everybody.

Comments and suggestions are certainly welcome.

73mensailed 10-16-2002 01:20 AM

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As a family that only recenly taken up sailing, it now seems to have grown into a passion. Especially for my 17 year old daughter. She now tells me all the time to read this or that on Sailnet. Together we have gone from reading an article to following the referring articles after. I pray that those articles will continue to create better sailors in our family.

Economy what it is, we all can understand a little streamlining. But maybe you could just ween us away very slowly.

PS, Sailnet has been good to us. Thank You.

The Brown''s
Scottsdale, Arizona
1992 MacGregor Classic 26s
"Splash"


JohnDrake 10-16-2002 05:31 AM

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Hi Sam!

Thank you for the note and the explanation. I realize this is a business and that fixed costs are the dragon of any business. Your approach seems most reasonable and I can and will certainly support you in that. I have certainly enjoyed the discount pricing here on SailNet as well as the free shipping.

Maybe you could get sponsorship for the articles or place more ads there?

Thanks

John
S/V Invictus
Hood 38

RobGallagher 10-16-2002 08:30 AM

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HI Sam,

I enjoy your site very much. I don''t shop online much. I like to see what I''m buying I guess, although have made a couple of purchases.

I am also a member of Sail Perks. I joined to help support this site, and maybe help increase the content.

Most major sailing magazines are out of the realm of normal people (excluding Practicle sailor and Good old Boat). Sail net seems to give those of us in the real world what we want to read. There must be a solution.

I was hoping to see more of this great content, not less.

Regards,


carisea 10-17-2002 07:18 AM

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I only have 2 sailing web pages in my address book. One is Hunterowners.com cause that is what I own and the other is Sailnet. I have gleaned more info from you guys than all the sailing mags combined. Cruising worlds web page has nothing and their message board is a mess. I have purchased from you guys online and will probably continue to do so. Because of your great format and scope I can tell you if an item costs the same at west marine, sailnet or defender, I will buy it from you every time. I do not know if that scenario will continue if you become just an online catalogue store.


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