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Very, very cool post. Thanks for sharing!

I too didn't realize Hunter used balsa coring in the hull. Looks like it's strictly above the waterline, but still not something I'm crazy about. I suppose in a new boat that you maybe only plan to keep for 10 years before trading up, it might be ok. Or if you're fanatical about checking and/or rebedding deck hardware and thru-hulls.

eMKay - Did you get to see any of the electrical and plumbing installations? If so, what's your take on the process?
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Very, very cool post. Thanks for sharing!

I too didn't realize Hunter used balsa coring in the hull. Looks like it's strictly above the waterline, but still not something I'm crazy about. I suppose in a new boat that you maybe only plan to keep for 10 years before trading up, it might be ok. Or if you're fanatical about checking and/or rebedding deck hardware and thru-hulls.

eMKay - Did you get to see any of the electrical and plumbing installations? If so, what's your take on the process?
Well, on the hull there is no hardware or through-hulls in the balsa, it's above the waterline. As for the plumbing and electrical it's like every other boat I guess. The wiring is run through conduits and looks pretty organized.
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Thanks eMKAY.....

That works for me since I can't afford anything that new anyway.....
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From what I can gather boats built in the mid 80's to late 90's are the ones to avoid.
The Legend series built in the 90's are among the best built productions boats ever made. It was in the mid 80's that H had some production and quality issues and which should be avoided.
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I didn't know the new Hunters have a balsa cored hull....
They don't!
As the writer said,
"it's about 5/16" thick up at the flange and down to the waterline, cored from the waterline to about 6" from the flange ..." which means only a portion of the topsides are cored.

This is similar to numerous high end boats and done primarily for purposes of insulation and is done for virtually all production boats.

The hull is solid glass
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The Legend series built in the 90's are among the best built productions boats ever made. It was in the mid 80's that H had some production and quality issues and which should be avoided.
I thought the Legend name was only the name they used in Europe, for essentially the same boats they sold here?
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Thank you for sharing with us the tour. Since I own a 2006 Hunter 36 it was interesting to see some photos of one being built. One thing you forgot to mention is the Hunter puts Kevlar in the hull during layup. Did you see this in the new models being built?
When I toured the new Hunters 2009 models at the boat shows I can see a big difference between them. Hunter is now using cheaper materials through out the boat; deck hardware (lesser grade of Harken), concrete/iron keels, no more teak veneer interiors.
I can comment on my electrical and plumbing and how it is built. Electrical systems is a simple system. Hitachi 60 amp alternator, 2X4d's batteries, nice Blue Sea electrical panel, Guest 1,2 both battery switch, Promarine 30 amp battery charger. alarms for low battery voltage and high water alarm. My boat is pre-wired for high water bilge pump, electric fuel pump by fuel filter. Not a bad system for just day cruising or one day on the hook. Any more than that and one has to upgrade everything for which I am in the process of doing. One good thing is everything is easy to get to and running wire is a snap with the conduits.
The plumbing system is all plastic snap compression fittings. All the piping is colored red or blue for hot and cold water. The manifold lives under the sink. Not my favorite place for this. I have some minor leaks in the snap compression fittings throughout the boat. I have got all them to stop except one at the manifold for which is giving me fits. The holding tank in the starboard stern lazzerate is there for the life of the boat. The hold tank indicator on most Hunters fail to work properly. One can see in the photo that the intake shoots waste right at the indicator tube. Bad design in my opinion.
I am not a happy camper with Hunter cheapening the new boats coming off the line today. I hope they don't return to the pre-Henderson days of building crappy boats.
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Thank you for sharing with us the tour. Since I own a 2006 Hunter 36 it was interesting to see some photos of one being built. One thing you forgot to mention is the Hunter puts Kevlar in the hull during layup. Did you see this in the new models being built?
When I toured the new Hunters 2009 models at the boat shows I can see a big difference between them. Hunter is now using cheaper materials through out the boat; deck hardware (lesser grade of Harken), concrete/iron keels, no more teak veneer interiors.
I can comment on my electrical and plumbing and how it is built. Electrical systems is a simple system. Hitachi 60 amp alternator, 2X4d's batteries, nice Blue Sea electrical panel, Guest 1,2 both battery switch, Promarine 30 amp battery charger. alarms for low battery voltage and high water alarm. My boat is pre-wired for high water bilge pump, electric fuel pump by fuel filter. Not a bad system for just day cruising or one day on the hook. Any more than that and one has to upgrade everything for which I am in the process of doing. One good thing is everything is easy to get to and running wire is a snap with the conduits.
The plumbing system is all plastic snap compression fittings. All the piping is colored red or blue for hot and cold water. The manifold lives under the sink. Not my favorite place for this. I have some minor leaks in the snap compression fittings throughout the boat. I have got all them to stop except one at the manifold for which is giving me fits. The holding tank in the starboard stern lazzerate is there for the life of the boat. The hold tank indicator on most Hunters fail to work properly. One can see in the photo that the intake shoots waste right at the indicator tube. Bad design in my opinion.
I am not a happy camper with Hunter cheapening the new boats coming off the line today. I hope they don't return to the pre-Henderson days of building crappy boats.
No problem, but I didn't forget to mention the kevlar.
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I thought the Legend name was only the name they used in Europe, for essentially the same boats they sold here?
The hunter web site will show the distinction better than I can explain but essentially Legend in Europe refers to the brand and here in the U.S., it referred to specific designs of the Hunter brand. One way to tell a U.S. Legend series Hunter is the existence of a backstay with swept-back spreaders.

I also did the Hunter factory tour a few months ago as well as the IP tour the following day - interesting comparison and differences between how each is constructed. They are entirely different boats and intended for different purposes so won't make any subjective comparisons here other than to say the hull layup schedule seemed to me to be very similar. When I was there, they were using lead for the keels at both factories but the IP keel was a lead/cement composite blend.

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The twin keel design is slower, but it creates a very stable and versatile vessel.

My father-in-law sailed a British-made 24 ft. Westerly around Cape Cod for many years. It had twin keels. Because of its shallow draft we could leave Sesuit Harbor at any tide level without fear of running aground.

Another nice thing about the twin keel design is how easy it fits on a trailer. He used to tow "Neirid" back and forth to the Florida Keys every winter behind his pick-up and it rode nicely.

Another thing that I recall about his Westerly, which may have absolutely nothing to do with the keel design, is how much space this boat had: 6 ft headroom, adult-size head, a galley, enough room to fit an Atomic 4, and enough berths so that 4 of us could comfortably spend weekends aboard.

I think the twin-keel design has many practical applications for the U.S. and the Bahamas, especially where water depth is an issue and you're willing to trade speed for stability.
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