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Old 06-15-2009
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Great Post/Story CD.....

I really admire folks that aren't afraid to say, hey I spent a ton of money, got into it an realized the ITEM/EXPERIENCE wasn't what I hoped, expected or thought it was and wouldn't do it again.

I use to race bikes (human powered) and guys (and gals) would spend oddles of dough on a high-zoot frame, get it custom-made, fitted, and such, and then always say it was well worth the money, best bike they had ever owned, when most of them could have probably bought a stock frame and just got it fitted correctly and had the same experience for the type of recreational riding/racing they did. They were embarrassed to say, it wasn't worth the money. Not so for me.

I raced an older, heavier steel lugged frame that was made by a reptuable dealer after graduating from Grad School. As I got better, and the technology in frame building advanced, I convinced myself I would do better if I had a lighter, more responsive frame. I did need one that was custom made because of my large size. I went with this high-zoot Titanium frame, filled out my personal questionnaire, got measured, plunked down my $2700 and the frame arrived another 4 weeks later. Another $1800 in parts, and the new stead was ready. It was a mistake looking back. I told the frame company I wanted a stiff drivetrain, and they overbuilt it to a point of being uncomfortable in long rides. It tracked well, but at the end of the day, I went back to my "cheap" bike and only used the other bike when racing. When folks asked me about my "race" bike and would I do it again, I tell them for some folks it's worth it, for me it wasn't.

I bought a Japanese Pick-Up truck 7 years ago because I wanted a pick up and it was rated high by CR and Motor Trend, etc. It turned out to be a bad decision. The car has had problems and two weeks after I bought it, my wife tells me she doesn't like driving it because it's too big. I asked why she didn't say something during the test drive,. She replied that she thought I had my heart set on it and didn't want to spopil my excitement. Had she said something, I probably would not have bought it.

However, for my Pearson 10M, the more I sail on other's boats, the more I like ours.

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I pretty much like the boat we have for what we do, but if I had it to do over again I would have gotten a different partner.
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We love our Hunter 30T and are on it almost every weekend here in Missouri. We recently purchased a Hunter 410 for when we retire (in 2-3 years) and have it in the canal behind our retirement house (currently rented) in Florida. We only purchased this boat now becasuse it was a great buy but I am still wondering why I have a 41' sailboat in Florida when I can't use it for another 2-3 years.
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I think that Catalina 22 is a great boat. I liked sailing on my dad's. It's a cozy weekend boat that you can do an overnight in it, just bring a porta-pot, or have marina facilities, and a camp stove. Easy to set-up, easy to learn on, decent sailing performance, a small cabin, trailerable, good sized cockpit for day sailing with friends, and inexpensive.

There is a reason that the Cat 22 is if not the, one of the most sold boats ever made. It appeals to a wide variety of sailors. Catalina has sold more 22's than some other boat manufacturers have sold for their entire boat line.

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Couldn't have said it better myself, DrB. When my kids were still at home, I would go out for several days with one of them at a time for a special sailing holiday with Dad. I don't know if they enjoyed it, but I loved it. My youngest daughter and I went out one time when she was 8, and the motor died shortly after we left the slip. Turned out great as it was the first time I had to rely on the sails alone to anchor, weigh anchor and return to the slip. It was a memorable time for me and for her.
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I am on my 4th boat

I have been sailing for the last 35 years. I have owned a 14', a 21', a 22' and now (a few years ago) settled on a 27' Catalina. I mostly daysail and do an occasional weekend. Mostly with my wife and occasionally with friends. I think I have the perfect boat for me at this time.
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I've owned my boat 3 yrs now. It's the first boat I've owned but I sailed quite often with mates on a few other boats of around the same size (26-30 ft).
Comparing to how the other boats sailed balanced with their other features (or lack thereof) I am still glad I have the boat I've got (Cole 26).
The more I keep researching the design and the designer the more I keep hearing the comment that they are good boats and a good design.
It's 26ft works well in the size of the bay I sail, it can comfortably accommodate 3 for overnighting or 4-5 for day trips.. Easily handled by a crew of two and with a little more tweaking single handed.
If I were to upgrade for the reason of size I would look very hard at other boats from the same designers board.

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Yeah, I'd do it again

My boat is a semi-custom. The hull is one of 12 designed by Charlie Morgan and laid up between 1976 and 1979. The boats were finished at the Starrett & Jenks yard in Florida.
The hull is a throwback to the 40's or 50's -- long overhangs, a tapered bow and stern and narrow beam -- if you like that look ( and I do) it's a thing of beauty. She's 45 ft 10 inches on deck, 11 ft beam and 6ft 1 inch draft, dispalces 25000 lbs. As was pointed out in a comment about these boats, their finish depends very much on what then original owners wanted and were willing to spend. Enchantress' original owner and a subsequent owner made here a real class act. Real wood below, brass fittings ( a distinct mixed blessing) custom mattresses -- not cushions. The best insulated refrigerator I've ever seen on a boat, a very quiet Volvo turbo diesel. She's very comoftable below, has a huge cockpit and sails like magic.
Improvements by me, a Vacuflush head (this was a must do for my wife) new sink. rewired to code. New running rigging. Replaces the plumbing and sinks.
Drawbacks, well a 6-foot draft is not ideal for the Chesapeake. The sails are in reasonable shape but not great and I'd love a fully-battened main. Better rollerfurler and the primaries should be 2 sizes bigger to handle the #1 genoa (135%).
Enchantress is the 4th boat I've owned on the bay.
Previous boats were Fancy Free, a hard-chined Dickerson 32 -- 8 tons of mahogany and oak without a mean fastening in her entire hull. I named her first dinghy Footloose bad choice, very bad choice.
Second boat was Satisfaction, a C&C 40 fitted out for racing. Did the Annapolis Wednesday series for 18 years.
Third boat was New Day, a Tartan 37 keel-centerboard version. She was a really good boat but my wife was never comfortable on her.
Finally Enchantress.
Yeah, I'd do it all over again.
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