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I posted this here under some in trepidation. That being I don't want to see off hand remarks from some of the members. I posted it here so that some lessons can be learned by the sailing community at large. So please refrain off color remarks. Sorry I had to say this but it needs to be said. Most tragedies we can all learn and hopefully not make the same mistakes.
I cannot begin to say how mad, sad, and grief I am feeling over this this event. I miss my friend and Gingo.
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Melissa, Thank you for the report and posting of the log. There are lessons for all of us to learn here.
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Mel,

Thanks very much for posting it here.

This really reads like an "every thing that can go wrong, will" story. In some respects he is "lucky" he encountered bad weather on the very first leg of his circumnavigation, rather than in a remote region of the oceans.

P.S. Gents, I'm going to go back and "suppress" some of our banter on this thread, which really is very off-topic and distracting. Sorry about that Mel.
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Mel - thanks for the post. Definitely a lot to think about. And definitely a sober reminder.

I do have a question - in a situation like that, would it be better to be blown off course in order to ease the hammering on the boat? As I read it, I totally understood the desire to make Bermuda, but keeping that course at all costs, beam on to some nasty seas, I wondered what would be the better course of action.

Also, it seems like this might be the type of situation where a drogue/chute would help. No?

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Mel - thanks for the post. Definitely a lot to think about. And definitely a sober reminder.

I do have a question - in a situation like that, would it be better to be blown off course in order to ease the hammering on the boat? As I read it, I totally understood the desire to make Bermuda, but keeping that course at all costs, beam on to some nasty seas, I wondered what would be the better course of action.

Also, it seems like this might be the type of situation where a drogue/chute would help. No?
One thing we have to remember here, none of us was on this boat at the time. One can only Monday quarterback and second guess. I know what I would do with what is know at this time is this.
I would have heave-to or lay a course to ease the pounding on the boat. I personally experience this in my Gulf stream crossing a few months ago. There was no time frame to get to the Azores. So why take it. The boat was provision for an extended stay on the water. His water supply while contaminated was drinkable with boiling. Furthermore, it was raining so water collection was doable. As far a drogue/chute I will have to take a hazy on. I don't think the seas where that big and confused at that. However, if one doesn't have the sails to heave-to than that option of deploying a chute is absolute. Since George didn't have his sea-legs yet, laying low for as many days as this storm hung around, being comfortable and maybe repairing a few things would have been the wise choice. Having sea room affords this luxury.
A few things on bluewater cruising or just boats in general.
Engine access. This should be a no brainer but boat manufactures seem to put engines in boats as an afterthought. Access to the engine should be 360 accessible without acrobatics or contortionist acts. We all know that Murphy's Law will always kill the engine when it most needed. Having access to that engine is crucial.
Fuel systems - With contaiminated tanks I would have rigged up the jerry cans to supply the fuel right out the can for the generator and engine.
Few boat builders put on a fuel filtering system, like the fuel boss sytem, to change filters, bleed and backup fuel pumps.
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Cool - thanks guys. I know these things can sometimes turn into a bashfest and there's no reason for that.

On the other hand, it is extremely helpful for us newbs to be able to ask questions and talk through these scenarios to get feedback from you guys that have been through them.
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Mel, Iwas sorry to hear about your friend and his boat Gringo. But what an educational read. Thanks for the post.
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I am not sure that laying low was an option for him. Before leaving the boat he says in his log that he was out of bottled water and was now drinking OJ. I have to wonder how much he had left on board to drink. It is all about state of mind.
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He abandoned the boat. No engine , bulkheads moving, mainsail torn, water contaminated, no tow to Bermuda. The boat was still floating. Real horror story.
Such a dreadful shame, all the work and blood sweat and tears he must have put into doing up his boat. It could have gone a lot worse, he could have been lost at sea as well. I hope he tries again, damn bermuda!
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