Outboard Size for 23ft sailboat?

[snider]

Well I'm going to sell the 9.9 Nissan. Anybody have any idea what a fair price would be? I'm not sure what year it is. Probably 1987. It started fine.

As I'm laying in bed thinking about this whole engine thing the thought crossed my mine to just go sans engine again. My marina really frowns upon sailing up to the dock though, and with the predominate wind from the SE here it puts me on a lee shore with a couple tacks through an anchorage. I did it fine on my 19 footer, as I havn't had this boat out yet I'm not sure what she'll sail like. Thats the reason i was getting a motor in the first place, it would be a little easier getting off the dock. I may try sailing out a few times before I sell the motor and see how it goes. As for docking under sail I could always anchor just off the dock and warp in. I've done that before when I had a really tight spot to go into. My slip isn't a t-head. I'm on the inside of a very long dock with a good bit of room fore and aft. The t-heads are on the otherside. This is why I want the smallest lightest thing I can get. If I do buy a 4 stroke I'd like to get that 6hp with the internal tank.

[mstern]

Originally Posted by snider

Well I'm going to sell the 9.9 Nissan. Anybody have any idea what a fair price would be?

If I do buy a 4 stroke I'd like to get that 6hp with the internal tank.

I sold a 1987 9.9 Johnson long shaft electric start at my garage sale for I think $65. Ran ok, but not great (which is why I replaced it). Probably about half of what i could have gotten for it if I had been willing to put an ad in the Bargain News or on line, but I wasn't up for the phone calls and appointment no-shows.

If you buy a new engine, it will be a four stroke. No one makes small two strokes anymore. I understand why you want the smallest, lightest engine you can find; but I am curious: what is the attraction for you of the internal tank? I thought the internal tank models were designed for those applications where there was limited room in the vessel for an external tank. Your boat is certainly not one of those, so I was wondering why you have a preference for the internal tank.

[snider]

The last owner had a 6 gallon tank in the starboard side cockpit locker with a male to male nipple through the aft end of the locker. I'm not a big fan of having a gas tank in a closed locker with a small vent in the stern. The boat has been setup like this for 22 years just fine so I don't know why I'm worried. Just doesn't strike me as safe, even if its a 1 in a million chance for a fire or explosion. My friend just lost a brand new car from putting a gas tank in the trunk of his car. He was getting gas for his lawn mower, didn't have the vent closed. The tank ignited and his car burned down. So that puts the external tank in the aft area of the cockpit. A little 3 gal tank doesn't take up much room and I'm sure I could fab something nice to hold it in place. I think this is what Beneteau had in mind because there is a raised area with nonskid.

So 75% of the time I'll only need the motor to get in and out of the slip, why be stuck with an external tank 100% of the time when I only need it 25% of the time? When I want to overnight or want a little more fuel I'll put the external tank in. It just gives me more flexibillty.

[mstern]

I get it. On my Oday 23, the fuel tank locker is under a cockpit seat at the rear of the starboard side. It is a completely separate unit, and is not vented into the bilge or cabin (like some Catalina 22's). In fact, the only vent for the fuel tank locker is the exit hole for the fuel line (which is on the inboard side of the cockpit).

The locker is sized perfectly for one of the old-style steel 6 gallon fuel tanks. When I bought my new engine (Nissan 8 hp two stroke, long shaft electric start) in 2002, it came with a poly three gallon tank and fuel line. Rather than wrestle with the fittings to put the Nissan fittings on my old fuel line (or put the Johnson fittings on the new fuel line), I just swapped out the old tank and line completely (the vent and fuel gauage were busted anyway). I thought that at some point I would buy a new 6 gallon tank, but the steel tanks are ridiculously expensive, and the new poly tanks look like they will be about a half inch too big to fit in the locker. I haven't gotten around to seeing if a new 6 gallon tank will fit; I've been making due with the three gallon tank. Its not a major pain, but I find the tank to be too small. I have to fill it about three times a season, as opposed to the 6 gallon tank, which I sometimes could make last all summer, but at worst only needed to be filled twice.

How big is the internal fuel tank on the outboard you are considering?

[snider]

.34 Gal. Its suppose to get almost an hour at full throttle. It's probably good to need to fill up more often. Old gas can cause problems and three times a season isn't much. Where do you sail your O-day? The first keel boat I raced on was an O-day 30.

[scottyt]

i give ya a 100 bucks for the motor you deliver to maryland

seriously see if you can get it shipped for a reasonable price to zip 21224, i might buy it if shipping is cheap enough

[mstern]

Originally Posted by snider

.34 Gal. Its suppose to get almost an hour at full throttle. It's probably good to need to fill up more often. Old gas can cause problems and three times a season isn't much. Where do you sail your O-day? The first keel boat I raced on was an O-day 30.

Out of Branford, Conn on Long Island Sound. A good friend of mine has the Oday 30. Nice boat. As far as "old gas" goes, I've never had a problem. I use a fuel stabilizer (Sta-bil is the one I have now I think) every time I mix up a tank, and I have had no problems with gas that is a year old.

[snider]

Originally Posted by TohatsuGuru

Quick update on the integral 6....Not going to be released until at least January, probably even later. Not sure why. If I can find out I'll post the result.

Have you heard anything? I think I'm going to go with the 6hp internal tank 25" shaft,,,whew thats a mouth full. You think it'll come out in Jan?

Unless I find a pretty new 2 strike that weighs around 40lbs. Thanks