Doesn't Anyone Start on Small Boats Anymore? - SailNet Community
 2Likes
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 42 Old 07-23-2009 Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
snider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Charleston, SC
Posts: 284
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 10
 
Wink Doesn't Anyone Start on Small Boats Anymore?

If you're looking to buy your first sailboat do yourself a favor, buy a dinghy or two, one for the wife wouldn't hurt, and learn to sail. If you must have something to sleep on, please nothing bigger than 20 feet. Sail that around for a year, give yourself time to learn what you do and don't like. Try different rigging and sail handling ideas. Learn how much work, money and time go into upkeep and new systems. Learn how much it costs to replace and repair things as well as scheduled bottom paintings and maint.

I just spent a hour on the phone trying to talk a guy out of buying my 27 footer as his first boat. For my sake I hope he didn't listen.

This is just my opinion I'm sure many of you will chime back in with. "My first boat was a 30 footer and I got along just fine" and you probably did, but if you ever want to have a docking or anchoring under sail contest....ohhh how about backing in a slip under sail alone!!!! You're on!

As I buy bigger boats I'm amazed at how cost and labor go up. I recently read a thread about people trading back down. Thats what I did. 27 feet is just to much. I still had the most fun and sailed the most with my 19 footer. Hopefully this new 23 footer will provide the same.

I've spent the last three weeks rebuilding an entire head/waste system, replacing rigging, waterpumps, haulouts...give me small and simple anyday.

Brandon
Charleston SC
Starwind 223 & Compac 16
snider is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 42 Old 07-23-2009
Owner, Green Bay Packers
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: SW Michigan
Posts: 10,318
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 12
       
Well said, Brandon.

“Scientists are people who build the Brooklyn Bridge and then buy it.”
Wm. F. Buckley, Jr.
sailaway21 is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #3 of 42 Old 07-23-2009
Roadkillibus Texanis
 
retclt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Great State Of Texas
Posts: 1,602
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 10
   
I agree . . . sort of . . .

27 isn't so bad for a starter. I agree that you can learn a lot with a dingy but . . . well I don't know . . .

I personally hope the guy buy's your boat snider . . . for you and for him. 30+ and I'd agree with you 100 percent! Btw . . . Love Charleston . . . I could be very happy living there. I lived in Myrtle Beach 'til I was 9.

Hi Sway!!! Long time no talk! Enjoyed meeting you in Chicago! btw . . . I'm re-reading WFB's "Airborne" before bed at night. "Atlantic high" and "Sailing Through Paradise" are next on the re-read list.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



Bob T

"I cannot not sail" - E. B. White
retclt is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #4 of 42 Old 07-23-2009
Here .. Pull this
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,031
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 9
 
I couldn't agree with you more. It's easy to sail in light winds on flat water, but it's the basics that you learn by feel on a lightweight boat that teach you how to survive the nasties.
Sailormann is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #5 of 42 Old 07-23-2009
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: chesapeake bay
Posts: 1,942
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 8
 
i learned on sunfish and then lazers then taught other how to sail sunfish and lasers. i wanted to buy a hobie 2 years ago, but the wife would not even think about going on one.

there are different sailors, some want the small boats some want some comforts. neither is wrong, what they do with their boat is
scottyt is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #6 of 42 Old 07-23-2009
ancient mariner
 
captbillc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: duluth ,minnesota
Posts: 439
Thanks: 1
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Rep Power: 8
 
since i have done most of my sailing on larger vessels the 3o footer i have seemed very small when i first stepped aboard. i wouldn't want anything smaller. i was thinking 40 ft till this came along. i think a person can learn on a vessel this size with proper instruction.

Liberals are people who care about others. Freethinkers are not constrained by the myths of religion.
captbillc is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #7 of 42 Old 07-23-2009
Senior Member
 
Boasun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: New Orleans, LA
Posts: 3,070
Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 10
   
Hey I started on my dad's 18 ft skiff a few decades ago.

1600 Ton Master, 2nd Mate Unlimited Tonnage

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Maritime Instructor
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

S/V Rapture
Boasun is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #8 of 42 Old 07-23-2009
Senior Member
 
Valiente's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Toronto
Posts: 5,491
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 11
   
I started with a 33 footer on the basis that the movement was slower (I didn't sail until I was 38) and that mistakes at dock would be spread over a larger chunk of gelcoat. While I agree in principle, I moved to a 41 footer for long-range cruising...the 33 footer was simply inappropriate to modify to that end.

But I've kept her and still sail her and will, after a few years, likely pass on the 41 footer, because it's too much boat for the Great Lakes.

Can't sleep? Read my countdown to voyaging blog @
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Valiente is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #9 of 42 Old 07-23-2009
Roadkillibus Texanis
 
retclt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Great State Of Texas
Posts: 1,602
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 10
   
I started on a Cornado 15 (#164) in the 70's. I know many folks who learned on 22 to 30 footers on their own and in sailing schools. A good route may be . . . buy the 27 and take classes on small boats. Maybe go for some ASA or US Sailing classes before you buy anything . . . to get the feel before you commit.


To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



Bob T

"I cannot not sail" - E. B. White
retclt is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
post #10 of 42 Old 07-23-2009
Senior Member
 
SVlagniappe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 111
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 8
 
OK, I'll admit it. My first sailboat was a 30 ft Catalina. Took the ASA sailing classes on a 30 ft Islander before I bought her. I'd have loved to be exposed to sailing smaller boats before then, but I wasn't. We sailed her for about 8 years, darned near every weekend, and the only trouble we had was running aground once or twice.

I'm proud to say that my daughter learned to sail a dinghy that we bought shortly after the catalina. Nothing quite like seeing your little girl sail around the anchorage on her own...

That said, I have no regrets about my first sailing experience being on a 30 ft boat.

Steve
SV lagniappe
Beneteau 423 #310
SVlagniappe is offline  
Quote Quick Reply Share with Facebook
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

By choosing to post the reply above you agree to the rules you agreed to when joining Sailnet.
Click Here to view those rules.

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the SailNet Community forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
Please note: After entering 3 characters a list of Usernames already in use will appear and the list will disappear once a valid Username is entered.


User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Windward performance deseely General Discussion (sailing related) 21 04-01-2012 02:42 PM
Buying first boat JandS Boat Review and Purchase Forum 13 12-09-2010 12:14 PM
Steel Hull Construction sailing320 Sailboat Design and Construction 71 09-24-2008 11:43 AM
How does an old boat fail ? LookingForCruiser Sailboat Design and Construction 7 01-17-2008 04:59 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome