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Old 08-27-2009
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I could never in my wildest dreams hope to get a Hinckley, but I sure can drool!
My thoughts echoed Smackdaddy's ..
My wife & I saw a beautiful Tartan 37 earlier this summer. I understand it's not a Hinckley, but we tried real hard not to drool there either!
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I can understand why others here would warn you away from a Hinkley as a first boat. I will dissagree. If the boat touches you, go for it. They are well built and will hold their value well (as will the boats I mention). I just do not consider learning to sail to be that big of a deal. Motoring is the hard part, but you will figure it out. Gell coat is not that expensive to repair (I just got a bill for $350 last weekend and I have been boating for 15 years). Get the boat that touches you the first time and if you like the name and reputation of the Hinckley, go for it. You won't be ashamed of the boat and she will keep you safe as long as you don't do something stupid. Keep her at a good yard where you can either have your maintenace done or be supervised as you learn it yourself. Good yards/marinas are expensive so don't go cheap.

Sahara may be able to give you a better idea on costs of the Hinckley, but our costs at 40/42 feet run about $7,500 annually not counting any major purchases. When we move her to Florida, those costs will increase $5100 to about $12,600. If you are going to take out a loan, you will need to add that into the cost of the boat too. Our boat is new, though, so we may not have the maintenance issues you have. Our neighbors who have a Panda, Mason, and Taswell (and dad on his Tayana 42) do most of their own maintenance and varnish and I would suspect you might enjoy doing it too. I think those of you that own those types of boats would get some enjoyment from doing it.

And just one other point, my mom and dad, at 59 yo, bought their first boat in their lives: A Tanaya 42. Certainly that would not be considered the easiest boat to learn on either. But they love her and would not trade her for the world. I suspect if you get that Hinckley, you will feel the same. Just look at the other boats I will mention as they may touch you too. They are comparable in price and luxury.


Here are some of the boats we looked at that were sail boats and maybe similar to your boat at least in comfort and appeal:

The Mason 44.

1990 Mason Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com

Classy boat. I love them and always have. Lots of teak and very comfortable inside. They were made in Taiwan (Ta Shing IIRC), considered the best yard in Taiwan. PAE, who built/import these, also makes the Nordhavn which is argueably the worlds best trawler. These boats are top notch. I estimate you could get a late 1980's in the mid to low $200's.

Taswell 43

1989 Ta Shing Taswell Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com

I love these boats. They are very luxurious. They are very comfortable inside. They will take you anywhere. They are also built at Ta Shing. Super boat. These boats are custom so make sure you check access to systems to make sure that the owners did not do anything stupid. I have been on a 43 and a 49 and have been nothing but impressed. If I were to buy one, I would probably opt for the 49 as I like the space better, but the 43 is a great boat too. The 49 may be more than you want to spend, but I suspect the 43 to be comparable in price to a Hinckley.

I never checked out a Hinckley. I looked at them online and never could see it working for us. We have two boys and plan on cruising, so the layout and space below was imperative. It had nothing to do with the absolute quality and reputation of the boats. Of all things, we actually made offers on a Nordhavn and two Kadey-Krogens. I know this is Sailnet, but depending on what type of sailing and cruising experience you have and plan on doing, it may at least be worth considering. It doesn't cost to look (well, yes it does but the cost of flying around the country is half the fun).

Just a lot of random thoughts. Hope it helps. All the best,

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Beautiful boat and not exactly slow. My wife and I had the privilege to race on one in the venerable Falcon Cup last weekend. It turned out to be a 26 mile downwind race in 10-18 true. We were first to finish in class and corrected to first in class and overall winner of the Falcon Cup. That's us at about 42 seconds into the video at our start.
YouTube - falcon start 2009 7

BTW we corrected out on boats ranging from a 1D 48 to a couple of Melges 32s. Not bad for a supposedly slow boat. It tracks downwind like a freight
train and slips through the water very nicely. If you have the money they are something special.

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I am looking forward to buying a sailboat, my first. I have little experience but have much researched, including Sailnet (thank you). The general reputation is that Hinckley is the best. If I can get my sailing kitty to accept the extra cost, would it be worth it?
FYI- The Good Old Boat has a great article on the Hinckley B40 this month.
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I don’t know why but I feel the need to opine on this subject. I don’t own a Hinckley, I never will. Not because some say they are slow, not because of the upkeep, not even the cost would deter me…I just prefer a more modern design. That being said I own an extremely rare boat that 99% of you have never heard of…a Belliure. My particular boat is the Ron Holland 12.5 sloop (not the raised pilot house atrocity) and I love her. She is one of two in the world and everywhere I go I am told she is the new standard by which to measure sailboats. Why do I tell you this? Well almost everyone I know told me not to get the boat based on one internet article and a complete lack of personal experience and knowledge. The cost was significant, the upgrades needed were going to be extensive and the upkeep will rival the Hinckley but I don’t care. The second I put my hands on her wheel and took a look down the deck I fell for her and I fell hard. Now that I own the boat and know her inside and out I have taken all those naysayers out with me…guess what? They all want one, they pine over her, they beg to go sailing and they admit she is something special. If you feel that connection to a Hinckley, get one. Life is too short to own an ugly boat or to wish you had something different.
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Thank you all for your informative replies.

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