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Me thinks had they not gone looking for the publicity, this whole government intervention into their personal & private business could have been avoided.

Oh well, lesson learned
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I think that's where a lot of these characters go wrong... like that goofball with the "Tin Can" homemade Tri that couldn't do 200 ocean miles before falling apart after months of publicity..

The Tin Can Blog - David Vann's Epic Journey Around the World - Esquire

It seems anyone who pre-publicizes these kinds of efforts generally set themselves up for spectacular, very public failure or notoriety (Zac Sutherland an exception here).

Two other notable voyages were undertaken with little or no publicity, one (Kimchow) ultimately was unsuccessful and that was really too bad, the other was by Tony Gooch of Victoria BC (non-stop singlehanded circumnavigation) who didn't even contact the media until he was within a day's sail of completion. (Both Canadians, btw!!)

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A couple of very different approaches... makes you wonder about the real motivations, doesn't it?
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We all have way too much government in our lives!
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Jens is the police spokesman....

just read the news reports..it was her money...contrary to popular opinion - some 14 year olds do have their own stuff, and their own mind...and are capable and mature
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Iporcano .. I work around teens, and in and out of high schools. You really have not idea what you are talking about. Sorry.
"Society has no business second guessing motivations." Really? So, if she wants to go become a hooker for her next school paper, that is ok?
Society has every right to control certain behavior. Drinking? Age restriction.
Smoking? Drug use? In most states, a 14 year old can not work in many jobs because of age. Bars? Dangerous machinery. We don't allow 14 year olds to vote. A 14 year old can not run for office, sign contracts, borrow money. A 14 year old can not drive an automobile.
But you think it is ok for this kid to take a boat around the world?

Please, I realize you are trying to be a devil's advocate, but do not make a total fool of yourself in the process.
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Its a freaking boat. Thats all. Can she sail it one mile? yeah? How about twenty miles? Okay?

Can she sail it a hundred miles?
And again tomorrow?
And again the next day?

Nothing to do with drugs, prostitution, drinking, driving automobiles, running for office, signing contracts, or borrowing money.

This is the typical way people like you want to think. You are trying to use a bunch of totally non related things to justify your position.

Taken to its extreme....since she cannot legally vote, can she be allowed to walk to the school bus unaccompanied?

Let me guess...not if you are in the business of selling supervision.
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For the record, if an adult wants to single-hand it is their choice as long as they do not endanger others.

We are talking about solo circumnavigation by a minor not taking her best friend to the Mall up the road. There is a big difference. Even driving cross country, to use that example, she would have help nearby, repair services available, and safe places to wait for weather or get some rest.

We are talking sailing 24/7, alone, for how long? And for what? It won't guarantee her a happy life, or cure cancer. A line in a record book, until a kid with parents more irresponsible than her's allows their child to beat it.

This latest stunt strikes me as one of two possibilities:
A) an impulsive act by an immature person which was doomed from the start.
B) a coordinated act with multiple enablers and an unknown organizer.
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2gringos ... what happens if she runs the boat into your boat?
She can't legally be held accountable, because of her age.

Are you going to say "no problem".

Why doesn't her dad go with her on this sail? Because there is no
money in that..

I am losing it !!
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