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My only frustration is that I hate the way our society has cataloged each of us based upon the number of years we have on the planet versus who we are. And I especially hate the way governments (ours or others) have unilaterally taken over from the parents as knowing what is best for children.
I couldn't agree more. Laws about what somebody can and cannot do based on age are simply age discrimination. While people do generally become more experienced and responsible as they get older, the variation between different people is often greater than the change an individual makes with age.

A good example is the driving age- it's absurdly easy to get a drivers license once you are of legal age, but impossible before that. Just a few seconds of driving on the road here in Los Angeles will prove that simply being of legal age fails to provide people with the ability to drive safely. I am certain there are people much younger than 16 that are capable of driving safer than many adults, and would be able to pass a much more rigorous drive test than is currently given.
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Okay, thanks. Looks like the english-language version will be up soon too.

In the meanwhile, for those of you who like me are Dutch-challenged, her boat is a 1996 Hurley 800, new to her (but secondhand new). Here's a link to Hurley's website:

Hurley 800

and here are her vitals:

Net zoals Laura’s vorige boot is dit ook weer een S-spant:

Lengte over alles: 8,30 m (LOA 8.3M)
Breedte : 2,75 m (Beam 2.75M)
Diepte: 1,40 m (Draft 1.4 M)
Waterverplaatsing: 3200 kg (Displacement 3200 kg)
Ballast: 1600 kg (Ballast 1600 kg)
Doorvaarthoogte: 12,50 m (met antenne) (Bridge clearance with antenna 12.5 M)
Watertank: 120 liter
Bouwjaar: 1996 (Build Year 1996)
Bouwnummer: 357 (Hull Number 357)
Stahoogte:1.80 m (Standinghead room 1.8M)
Motor: Vetus Diesel (16 pk)
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Reisplan

And here is her intended route. It appears she is planning a two year circumnavigation, with stops, via the Panama and Suez canals, and the Med:


Reisplan

Het is moeilijk om precies aan te geven hoe de reis van Laura zal verlopen. Toch heeft ze al een voorlopig schema opgesteld:

2009
September: Vertrek Nederland
December: Vertrek Canarische Eilanden

2010
Januari: Aankomst Cariben
Mei: Panama
November: Aankomst AustraliŽ
December: Darwin

2011
Februari: Sri Lanka
April: Begin rode zee
Juli: Middellandse zee
Augustus: Gibraltar
September: Nederland
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To this Colonial there is nothing amazing about it. Sending a 13-year old alone and unsupervised around the world, presumably for a year on her own? Would qualify the family for legal intervention in the US as well. AFAIK most or all US "child welfare" agencies, in all states, would call the abandonment and lack of supervision and they'd seize the child, make her a ward of the state, and bring charges against the parents.

Whether that's right or wrong...that's what many modern protectionist (ahem, Socialist) states do, and have done for some long time now. Nothing amazing here, or there.

Since she is a minor, there's also a question of how she would enter various nations in transit--again, alone and unsupervised. Some may not allow a minor unaccompanied. Others will have a problem that she cannot make any legal contract, so who carries her insurance liability for marina? And so on.

It has been a long time since "child kings" were sitting on the throne of most nations, and these days a 13-year old is only an adult in places like the African bush.

Of course, if the parents are serious, they'll understand why they are wrong under Dutch (and many other) laws, emigrate quickly to someplace where their actions are legal and acceptable, and abandon their child from there. It's a quick and simple solution, isn't it?
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Good point hello. I hadn't thought about it that way.

This better than summer camp for parents! Toss your kid onto a sailboat, push it away from the dock toward Panama, wave goodbye, and party for 2 years! Just like being 20 again!

Nice.
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I've raised three kids and coached many 13 year old teams. I don't care how responsible or knowledgeable or mature she is. Any parent letting her go on a trip like that is a few bricks short of a load.
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Girl's mature faster than boys. I don't recall anyone making a fuss about Zac's trip (I believe he was just 15 when he left.)

I sense a double standard.
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Double standard?

I don't see that. I see one case (Zac's) where no one raised a point about his age, versus a second case (Holland) where the thread only was started BECAUSE "the state" was raising the point.

Hey, replacement kids are cheap, the Chinese export 'em by the boatload and in many parts of the world you can buy them for a lot less than the Chinese charge. The great (cough cough) concern and sanctity for each life is very much a luxury of recent Western European Civilization. There are parts of the world where breaking your baby's legs is a GOOD THING because it ensures they can have a job as a beggar.

No double standards, just different considerations in different venues. I suspect "Whoa! Dude!" plays differently in Dutch.
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