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J windvane, and the others...

Perhaps this is what is wrong with America and our kids...they WILL live down to our expectations, how ever absurd they may be...and that if people like you prevail..many kids will never leave the front porch or experience life.

We, collectively, individually, or in any group or label you want to apply have no say so in how this kid is raised and what she "should" be allowed to do...

Had some overprotective know it all not gotten involved in the first place, she would be well on her way and NEWS FLASH - either succeeded or failed.

I have a son who when he was 13-14 was far more mature, and had a better head on his shoulders than many 30 somethings. Age has nothing to do with ability (or inability for that matter).

Why is it that every "expert" has to jump in on every situation and offer their one and only analysis to the perceived problem. I would suggest that many of you experts do not have kids, or if you do they are an aside.

Weird how she, at 14 made it to the Dutch Antilles...where were all your "protections" then...certainly SOMEONE should have done something..and yes - bad stuff happens all the time, to good people. I am living proof of that.

She has every right to do what she wishes, she has yet to blame or incriminate any one else...this should be between her and her custodian or parent, wherever or whoever they are.

Let the kid go...she will find out soon enough what life is all about.
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Why is it that every "expert" has to jump in on every situation and offer their one and only analysis to the perceived problem.
Because it's fun!

Seriously, analyses=opinions. Different ways to look at things. That's what a forum is about - and what keeps things spicy.

I mean, you just offered your analysis. So it's all good.

BTW - My expert analysis is that these people should TAKE their young kids on a circ - not push them away from the dock and party for a year while their "mature"-yet-very-minor spawn battle the elements alone. Convenient for the partying parent? Sure. Responsible, mature custodianship? Not so much. (At least that's what the "experts" in the Dutch courts said).


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I dont know what the right thing is BUT the 14 year old seems to have the best skills and the most real boat time of the current crop

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I read in the paper this morning that Laura was found in St. Maarten. No word in the short article if she was alone, or what she was supposedly doing there.
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It scares me that the fact is, that Governments have takin over wiping our kids asses and we still pay the bills.. We have had our Parenting takin away , unless we do it the STATE Way..
An American lady visiting england a while ago , had a child throwing a temper tantrum.. so she whack it on the butt ,, the public assholes went into a frenzy and attacked the lady and TOOK her child, and the Court and the Ghestopo backed them up.. WHO Tramatized the child, it wasnt MOM.
What a bunch of CRAPP.. we have NO rights in this world beyond what BIG BROTHER allows us to retain and that is fewer and fewer every day..



as far as the Kid goes,, Hell, if she Dies out there its Natural Selection..


A friend after one of those POSTAL things , told me she could NOT se HOW a person could Do such a thing.. I thought for 1/634th of a Second and said,, "I CAN"

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Just came accross this update.


Dutch police seek to explain young sailor's trip - Yahoo! News

A people that values its privileges above it's principles will soon lose both.
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Cry me a friggin river... a 14 year old empties her bank account (and as you can't work at that age in NL, that was someone else's money), bails on her family, friends, relations and decides to start anew with a guitar and suncream...??? Her "dream" has been shattered. Oh my, what is one to do! Suck it up and move on - that's life. Everything is a concession to something or someone.

14, alone, flying half way across the world is not your stable, grounded reaction to this. It'll be nice in a few days when the parent's begin to get a stench around them and are finally shown for what they really are - manipulative, glory seeking, societal rejects that don't have the balls to live their own adventure but try to do it as a surrogate with their own kid. If it was a "dream", don't ya think she could wait a couple of years?
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It certainly may be the parents dream, but don't be too quick to say it ain't a normal reaction...I knew many girls way back, that much to their parents shagrin, that "ran away" when they were early teens, some from abusive family and fathers, some from Boys, some from problems...may be not the best solution, but it works for many

but I do have to give her credit...collected the money from the bank (hers or not...got an airplane ticket, got through security at the airport with a guitar and gear, made at least the one flight, likely two flights to get the islands, all this without "help"...

Whether it is "riding across the USA on a Harley", roadtrip, working the fishing boats, hiking the appalachian trail or what ever the dream of youth was for you....this girl did it... SHe appears happy in the pictures, so very little traumatization, no lack of self-confidence,

perhaps a "normal" 14 year old with a pretty deep bag of skills, that has been set aside, and in her world no one has "explained" why she CAN'T go...this is a kid that has been on the go without restrictions for some time..

I wish her happiness and success in her search...
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Cry me a friggin river... a 14 year old empties her bank account (and as you can't work at that age in NL, that was someone else's money), bails on her family, friends, relations and decides to start anew with a guitar and suncream...??? Her "dream" has been shattered. Oh my, what is one to do! Suck it up and move on - that's life. Everything is a concession to something or someone.

14, alone, flying half way across the world is not your stable, grounded reaction to this. It'll be nice in a few days when the parent's begin to get a stench around them and are finally shown for what they really are - manipulative, glory seeking, societal rejects that don't have the balls to live their own adventure but try to do it as a surrogate with their own kid. If it was a "dream", don't ya think she could wait a couple of years?
When "THEY" cook up a reason to Take YOUR child, you will see it from the Proper prospective..
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When "THEY" cook up a reason to Take YOUR child, you will see it from the Proper prospective..
Ummm..... yeah, I guess I'll have to point to webcam at my driveway entrance to make sure THE MAN ain't coming to get me. Ever think of counseling?
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