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According to the Dutch Telegraaf (biggest newspaper) Laura was taken in custody in a Childhouse earlier this year by the British Authorities. She sailed to England by her own and the Authorities helt her because they found it to dangerous for her to sail home alone at sea.
The reason she was sent to a Childhome was because her father refused to pick her up in England. Later he came and sent her home by her own boat.
The British contacted the Dutch Police and the Youthcare organization.

Her Mother isn't happy with the plans. But she will let her go, because she don't like to lose the contact with Laura. Her parents are divorced.

This Tread wasn't ment to discuss the legal side, but to inform you that there are big dreams even by youngsters. Time will tell the future about this story.

Whole story n Dutch.
Laura zat even in kindertehuis
De 13-jarige Laura Dekker, die in haar eentje rond de wereld wil zeilen, is dit voorjaar in Engeland door de politie tegengehouden.
Ze was naar Engeland gezeild, maar de autoriteiten vonden het te gevaarlijk om haar alleen op zee terug te laten varen. Omdat haar vader aanvankelijk niet naar Engeland wilde komen om haar op te halen, werd ze tijdelijk in een kindertehuis geplaatst. Dat zei haar advocaat Peter de Lange donderdag naar aanleiding van berichtgeving in de Volkskrant.

Daarop besloot vader Dick toch maar naar Engeland af te reizen. Maar eenmaal op de kade aangekomen negeerde hij de Britten en lioet Laura toch in haar eentje terug naar Nederland terugvaren. „Dat is ook helemaal niet strafbaar, niet van hem en niet van haar”, aldus De Lange, die niet uitsluit dat Laura werd tegengehouden na een tip uit Nederland.

De Britten schakelden vervolgens de Nederlandse politie en Bureau Jeugdzorg in.

De Lange benadrukt dat Laura eerder door de autoriteiten is tegengehouden, toen zij alleen op bijvoorbeeld het IJsselmeer of langs de Nederlandse kust zeilde. „Maar dat leverde nooit een probleem op, want het is niet illegaal.”

De kinderrechter in Utrecht beslist vrijdag of de ouders van Laura worden beperkt in het gezag over hun dochter. Ze wil alleen de wereld rondzeilen. Haar ouders steunen de plannen voor de twee jaar durende reis.

Laura's ouders zijn gescheiden en de moeder van de havo-scholiere zou niet staan te springen bij de plannen van haar dochter. Ze zou het echter toelaten omdat ze het contact met Laura niet wil verliezen.
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Her Mother isn't happy with the plans. But she will let her go, because she don't like to lose the contact with Laura. Her parents are divorced.
Thanks for that additional insight, Pierre. Also, for your earlier post that seems to indicate that the court case has not yet been resolved.

This is a different scenario from what I originally supposed. It's not a case of the parents being united on what is best for their child and the government interfering. Apparently the parents are somewhat at odds with one another.

It sounds like the father has custody. The trip seems to be happening against the wishes of her mother, and at the encouragement if not prodding of her father. Not good.

Maybe the courts should shift custody to the mother.
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Age record set by British sailor - The Globe and Mail

Zak's record has fallen already!!!

Notice how this young British sailor's Dad followed him (without providing assistance.) Maybe the young girl's father will do the same? If so, I'd say he's a GREAT dad.
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Cool that Mike made it. I've followed that story off and on but hadn't heard lately.

And I agree with you GW that if the girl's dad follows - it's cool. Very cool. Otherwise, it's freakin' creepy.
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Most (if not all) states in the US require a child to attend some form of school until a certain age. Where I grew up you had to attend school until the age of 16. After that you could drop out if you wanted to. The State freaking out about her missing 2 years of compulsory school is not a uniquely Dutch concern. You can't do it here, either.

Also, I agree that kids can dream big, but they don't temper those dreams with reality. My little boy would probably think it'd be the coolest thing in the world to circumnavigate, but he probably won't consider any of the potential problems that come along with that sort of trip (like being away from mom and dad for 2 years!) That's my job. That is part of a parent's responsibility.
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Been there done that with the school when my daughter was in the ballet company between 14 and 17 years old

Everbody pitched a fit ,I sad F_OFF and did some internet school with her NOW she has a degree from SUNY Buffalo and is starting her MSW at SUNY Stonybrook next week

In fact the ballet deal has opened a LOT of doors for her because it has proven how hard she is willing to work to reach a goal


Normal high school is HIGHLY overrated and does not send a child into the world prepared for much of anything BUT more school
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We are all fools no matter what age

If she has the blessings of the parents and she willingly and truly wants to do it... History - Christopher Columbus as an example..Nothing should get in her way if she has the knowledge, ambition,courage and resources. Promblem with our society we set age limits instead of competency ones.
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Been there done that with the school when my daughter was in the ballet company between 14 and 17 years old

Everbody pitched a fit ,I sad F_OFF and did some internet school with her NOW she has a degree from SUNY Buffalo and is starting her MSW at SUNY Stonybrook next week

In fact the ballet deal has opened a LOT of doors for her because it has proven how hard she is willing to work to reach a goal


Normal high school is HIGHLY overrated and does not send a child into the world prepared for much of anything BUT more school
Kudos to your daughter, but- and with all due respect- traveling with a ballet company, in a group, supervised, is an entirely different experience from circumnavigating the globe alone.

At any age.

No 13 year old- any nation, any creed- is mature enough to handle the psychological stresses of a circumnavigation. The physical challenges, maybe, but the stressors of single handed life for 2 years? No.

Hey, I'm all about government staying out of our lives, but it's parental decision making like this that allows them to get involved in the first place.
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Sending minors solo onto the sea in order to "set records" is the stuff of stunts, not sailing. By definition, a child cannot give informed consent, so she can "agree" to go all she wants...it's meaningless.
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Sending minors solo onto the sea in order to "set records" is the stuff of stunts, not sailing. By definition, a child cannot give informed consent, so she can "agree" to go all she wants...it's meaningless.

IIRC, Jessica was killed by her flight instructor allowing heavy camera equipment into the back of the plane, both making the plane overweight and putting the center of gravity too far aft. That last part is difficult to do when a 200 pound adult is sitting next to the instructor, and easy when it's a lightweight child sitting there instead.

The comparison here isn't that easy, more like Laura Dekkker having an adult on board that decided to open all the seacocks and hatches in a storm, and take out the reefs and furl out more genny to boot, all while pouring seawater into the diesel tank and unscrewing the keel bolts. Jessica would have been better off by herself than with that hack of an instructor that ended up killing them both.

Not saying anything about Laura with the above, just setting the record straight on Jessica. When the weather is nice, a thoroughly trained 9 year old can fly planes all day safely.

As for Laura, it's the land-based dangers that might be worse than the dangers at sea. If dad met her in every port and helped her with basic protection against bad guys, provisioning, weather windows and other planning, that would be a big improvement. Following her would be even better.
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