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Old 04-26-2013
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Re: Boat owner not paying yard, and title of ownership issues

Here in NC all you need is a notarized statement from the last titled owner stating that he/she no longer has any interest in the vessel. After that you submit to wildlife for a new registration and title. They will check records for stolen vessels and if it does not show up you are good to go. Of course all states are different but if you could get such a statement it might help the process along. Just a thought, might be a good first step.
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Re: Boat owner not paying yard, and title of ownership issues

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Here in NC all you need is a notarized statement from the last titled owner stating that he/she no longer has any interest in the vessel...
Sounds nice in theory, but in practice the owners of these direlict boats owe thousands of dollars in back storage fees (and sometimes boat loans), and would never create a paper trail to help the creditors track them down.

Our marina has over 10 abandoned vessels right now. The marina is very vulnerable because so many slips were empty over the winter. In the last month or so, several vessel were driven in at night, tied up at the T-ends, and the anonymous owners just left. The marina is not installing security cameras to prevent this in the future, but not sure how that will work at nighttime.

The T-ends are typically used for the biggest boats (big profits for the marina), so this really hurts the marina financially. The paying customers can't get in until the marina does something about these boats, but I suspect there are liability issues if they touch the boats. (Last one to touch it has responsibility for fuel leaks, disposal costs, etc.)
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Re: Boat owner not paying yard, and title of ownership issues

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Here in Florida it's quite easy to get title to a boat abandonded in a yard. We find it necessary to do this two to three times a year as we are a service department, not a storage yard. It cost us about $300 to get the title and then we either sell them or junk them, either way we don't have room to store them.

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Re: Boat owner not paying yard, and title of ownership issues

start looking around, the more you look around the more you'll find. when the economy chokes a little the toys go first.
you can pay whatever you want for whatever you want. you just have to be patient and knowledgeable of the available "stock"
stay focussed, remember your cash will spend anywhere anytime,their building more boats every day
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Do you see any go past that are NOT junk in your opinion? Is finding something that is mostly solid and merely ugly a popular fairy tale?
In our case we would repair and re-sell anything we could if we could make a profit. The only ones we sold weren't really worth fixing. I worked (retired now) for a large motorcycle/jet boat/pwc dealership; we had the resources to invest time and money in a few projects a year.

I can only think of one time we got ownership of a pristine jet boat. The owner had been a total dick to deal with and had pissed off just about everyone in the dealership from owner to wash boy. Well, he lost his job and blew up one engine all in one week. We got the engine repaired under warranty but he wouldn't come in and pay his portion of the bill. He was using us as free storage and we notified him (certified mail) of the storage charges but he'd promiss to come in, pay up and pick up, but never did. Did I mention he was a dick? LOL He was an anal dick; the boat was perfect. He just failed to keep his promiss one time too many ...... we sold that thing a week after we got the title.

Moral of the story ..... if there's money to be made, the dealer's gonna make it.

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Re: Boat owner not paying yard, and title of ownership issues

The only caveat being that things can get complicated when the vessel in question is federally documented and a boatyard or marina, files in state court and gets a title that way.

You wouldn't want to be the one who bought that boat if the owner came back and filed in federal court to challenge the use of the state law to seize and sell his boat.

The federal Commercial Instruments and Maritime Lien Act says expressly that it, not any conflicting state law, controls. (Title 46 USC Section 31307.) Worst case scenario, the sale would be undone, and just possibly the yard would face liability for “conversion”, or civil theft.

Something to keep in mind.
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