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Old 10-27-2009
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I have found the solution to the plastic problem in the world.

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Envion has created a process that transforms plastic waste back into its original form – crude oil.

Envion introduced its first market-ready commercial unit at a demonstration held at the Montgomery County Solid Waste Transfer Station in Derwood, Maryland.

A proprietary breakthrough technology developed and perfected over the past 15 years, the Envion Oil Generator is the first plastic waste to oil conversion platform of its kind. Utilizing plastic as feedstock, the unit employs a groundbreaking process that produces light oil, medium oil, and emulsified oil as output.

A single Envion unit is capable of processing up to 10,000 tons of plastic waste annually, producing three to five barrels of refined petroleum product per ton of plastic waste. This technology is scalable through the addition of reactors, which facilitate the conversion of new plastic waste (as well as plastic currently sitting in landfills) into a renewable and invaluable resource.

The Envion Oil Generator lies in its proprietary process. Building on this foundation, Envion has created a generator that extracts the hydrocarbons embedded in plastic waste without the use of a catalyst.

The reactor, a vital component of the unit, utilizes a heating system that converts plastic into oil through low temperature thermal cracking in a vacuum. Using this innovative approach, the Envion Oil Generator produces oil and power safely, efficiently, and economically through an environmentally sensitive process that produces a net gain in energy recaptured.

Envion said its new generator can consume any type of plastic and convert it into synthetic oil; depending on the type of plastic, one ton can be converted into three to six barrels of fuel. Envion said it costs about $10 to convert the plastic waste into a barrel's worth of synthetic oil; currently, crude oil sells for close to $70 a barrel.

The generator, with a capacity for handling more than 6,000 tons of plastic per year, is a slightly smaller version of what Envion will soon be pitching as its flagship product. The 10,000-ton version, which could produce up to 60,000 barrels, costs $6 million to $7 million to build.

The United States produces approximately 50 million tons of plastic waste per year, the vast majority of which ends up taking up space in landfills. With the ability of a single Envion Oil Generator to eliminate 10,000 tons of plastic per year, at a cost of $17 per ton, the Envion Oil Generator is a cost effective alternative to the $70-$200 cost range of landfill disposal. Additionally, according to the EPA recycling programs process only 6.8% of plastic waste and are also not as cost effective, costing between $50 and $150 per ton of plastic recycled.
Of course I didn't invent the process but I found the website.
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Hmmm.... it gulps up all kinds of plastic, returns it to usable oil, has a small net gain in energy and is hugely profitable to run.

So what's the catch? Isn't there some saying about if it seems too good to be true then it probably is?

Still, if it's for real then it'd be a Good Thing!
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"Like the Indian chief said, Take all the 2 legged creatures off the earth , and it will Thrive"
Aside from that Truth, I heard on some TV show, that the Garbage patch in the Pacific is "Twice the size of Texas" :-0
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I am more than happy to do my part and boat in a NO discharge anyplace area.

BUT every time it rains they shut down shell fishing and beaches because of land based RUNOFF

Its the same thing with oily waste discharge if i do it on the boat its a BIG deal BUT theres 50 cars in the parking lot leaving and OIL slick and thats JUST FINE
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it's easier to blame the water polution issues on boaters as they are an easy target and rarely is anyone cruising or boating willing to put up much of a combined unified front to thwart such erroneous claims. Also boaters are often easy scapegoats to mis-direct the un-educated unimformed majority of dirt dwellers. whom believe almost everything they read/see in the media.
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It has only been in the recent past, that Anyone gove a hoot what they trrew into the ocean. Boats of ALL sizes dumped it ALL into the Sea. wether it was Garbage, old Fuel cans, Helicopters etc etc etc.. It has been the Accepted Dumping site for the Hunam population.

NOW, we need to find a way to Clean it up..
But, thats hard to do, because its a World Wide situation and Few care what the hell is in the ocean. Im suprised the Japanese dont EAT it. Hell, they eat everything Else and they will Eat the Very last Blue whale in a heart beat..
( OMG, hes a Racist, )oh Piss off..
But, I digress.

So, What can be done to Clean it up..? Really, HOW big IS the lump of trash in the Pacific ????
Is it Mostly Plastic ?
I hear a lot of Whining and Crying about it, Where are all the Pics of this Continent size island of Garbage ?
Can we move all the Prisoners to it and make Them clean it up.. ?
Can we Relocate all the Sumolies to it, that would kill 2 Pandas with one shovel
The sumolies live in a Dump anyway, theyed never notice.

oh. I know, I know, we can move ALL the People to it and Leave the Land to those that had it in the First place.. Animals and Bugs
Yes, im Extremly Politicly Inccorect. its called "REALITY"

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In the past, cleaning something up usually means moving the offending material to a differnet hole.

If I were the boss of the world, everything would have a deposit on it and manufacturers would have the means to recycle their products.
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Problems?

There are NO problems .......only PERCEPTION of reality
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Pickle,

Just to be clear the 'garbage patch' is not a solid island or mass of plastic but more an area of higher density of plastic concentration. If you run a net through a small volume of the water in the Gyre you will filter out small pieces of sunlight degenerated plastic and many very small fragments of plastic. The depth to which the plastic is found is up to 30 m and the overall area is HUGE.
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Not sure what agenda someone who is concerned about albatrosses might have. Shocking that sailors would be against cleaning our waterways. Was the Clean Water Act a bad idea? Should we be permitted to dump oil and fuel into the water? There is a giant mess of plastic in the ocean. It's a fact.


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