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I am surprised that no one said : 'a similar boat to what I have but about 5 feet longer and few more options'...that is what I see most of my friend doing lately.
I guess you did not read my first line in above what I want?!?!?!?!?!?!

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I'd love a wooden classic, in good condition, divided rig, well balanced for self steering, plenty of room below, a shower for the lady, a good diesel, simple reliable systems......... Oh, wait, I have that boat! I'm very happy.
Ok, she could use more sail area.
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sorry missed that...you're on the money with that one Marty!

and like I said you are not alone!

It seems that there are two kinds of boat owners... the hardcore cruiser who has found a boat, invested heavily in it and gone through a great deal with their boat...I have many many of these people who have had their boat for 10,15,20 and even 25 years! and will keep that boat until they get too old to cruise on it.

The other is the majority (IMHO)...those who are recreational/hobby boaters who after a period of a few years upgrade about 5 feet (fiveFootitis)...which I can understand because it give new experiences and a bigger better toy.

I know this is not always the case...but as a generalization
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I would choose the Nordhavn 86 so that I could sell it and with the 7 Million Bucks buy a nice Pacific Seacraft and never work again.

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Noticed a distinct lack of boats here of the multi-hull persuasion. Did I miss something?
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Noticed a distinct lack of boats here of the multi-hull persuasion. Did I miss something?
Maybe something like this? ......i2f
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HULL:
Basically a Cheoy Lee Newell Cadet, AKA offshore 27. 27' LOD 7'10" beam, low freeboard, gobs of teak woodwork, but a GFRP hull. Insulated. Long, glassed over lead keel. Preferably outboard rudder, or keel hung. Small self draining cockpit.

RIG:
Sloop with solent stay, twin backstays, all synthetic. Bowsprit with anchor rollers and storage. ST winches. Tanbark sails. Folding mast steps, extremely comfortable bosuns chair for use as a crows nest. Lots of bronze, polished. External halyards with sealed, deck stepped mast. Extremely solid gusseted mast step. Tiller steered. Self designed wind vane made of unobtainium.

ANCHORING:
Everyday anchor: Lewmar claw, 25' chain and nylon rode.
Storm Anchor: Luke with 50' high tensile strength chain and Nylon
Kedge anchor/ lunch hook: Fortress on Spectra line.

INTERIOR:
Sleeps 2, and in a pinch will sleep 4, one on floor and one in hammock, packed in like sardines. No stinking v-berth! No "sleeps 6" ********, no space wasted on unused sleeping areas. Storage in the bow. Bulkhead door to bow section. Cedar sauna and shower amidships, diesel fired. 2 manual bilge pumps and one electric pump. More storage space. All lockers with watertight hatch openings on sides and tops. All lockers sealed watertight and compartmentalized. Preferably all wood. Gobs of teak, lemon oil and wax, no fancy varnish. Standing headroom in galley, two burner stove with oven, diesel fired, same as sauna heater (only one diesel fired device to deal with). Foot pump sink. Deep, with some stones sitting in the bottom. Lots of hooks to hang things on around the cabin. Lots of handholds.

Electronics: 12v house bank with DC outputs at various voltages for a handheld GPS, and whatever other things I want to charge, 18volt power tools, etc. VHF and EPIRB. No fancy doodads like chartplotters or knotmeters. Paper charts.

No head.
No inboard.


The ultimate dreamers solution:

9.9HP multi fuel Evinrude. (this doesn't exist, but they make multi-fuel outboards)
Runs on diesel, kerosene, JP, av-gas, gas. BURN IS BURN!
With 12v charging, hanging off the stern.

Also some solar panels, a backup outboard. Lots of tankage.

and Kerosene lamps with thermocouple voltage generators to LEDS

I've been told that diesel and kerosene are the same thing.


Unobtainium? You go to Pandora?
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This boat does not exist but here goes:

Ability to haul 17' outboard and small ATV...I want to explore islands.

Hard to sink. Getting sunk stinks.

Tireless...does not get weak and dangerous.

Ability to steer inside, out of the elements.

Comfortable for a guy who is 6'5". Nice bed.

Holds its value for a couple years.

Cost less than 100 thousand.
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That is an easy answer for me. I have even made the preliminary sketches :

13,99 m lenght (here you pay in the marinas a lot more for a boat over 14m);

Aluminium, for resistance against impact on submerged objects;

With variable draft, with a bomb ballast. Deep draft (2,50m) for very good upwind sailing, and short draft (1,40) to go almost everywhere.

Big initial stability and an AVS of around 130ļ, for a fast and seaworthy boat (big sail area).

A easy 8k boat with very fast and safe downwind sailing.

Versatile interior space with a small deck salon/pilot house space and a bigger interior salon, also with a sea view and confortable arm chairs.

A good galley with lots of space.

A dedicated space for the dinghy and the life raft, and lot's of other personalized features, like the geenacker extensible boom.
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But unfortunately it is needed more than to know what kind of boat is the dream of each sailor . It is necessary to have the means to afford it and after asking for prices I found out that one is out of my reach.

So my next boat and I would say my last boat will not be the perfect one, but some kind of compromise.

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