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post #21 of 33 Old 04-16-2010
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I read that the fisheries in around there are doing quite well now, it wasn't shipping causing problems, it was ellegal foriegn fishing boats clearing the oceans bare. now it's to dangarous for them to be there. but the pirares have learned there is a lot of money to be made, as long as they don't get to brutal with their catch, if hostagies start dieing then it's time to elimanate the pirates and risk the hostagies.
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Nothing in this world is as simple and as black and white as it gets portrayed.
Nothing in the world is as simple and black and white as looking down the barrel of a gun!

Negotiations won't help.

Empathy won’t help.

Cowering won’t help.

Geee, what else is there… ?
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Agreed, sometimes reality sucks however it is still reality. It is time to wake up. Either be proactive (don't go there, or expect to be boarded and be prepared to do something about it) or be reactive and just think it is going to happen to someone else and wring your hands. Not much gray area looking down a gun barrel.

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Without commenting on the specifics of the arguments being made, I find the name calling toward people who don't share your politics quite juvenile and offensive, particularly on a sailing forum (and the cheering, too).

You could have made the same point without adding "IDIOTS."
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OK so with all the international legal distress concerning firearms that one might potentially use to battle pirates, if the **** hits the fan and all other options are sinking does anybody know if there are equally rigid laws regulating crossbows/repeater bolt-throwers/flamethrowers/molotovs/mustard gas etc...
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does anyone know of any convoys going east? That is from the red sea towards the maladives?
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Just recently came off a war ship hunting pirates. I will say this, although I understand where they are coming from and why they are doing it, they also understand the consequences. That said, the only thing that they deserve is a shot to the head. If you disagree, then that is ok, but they won't hesitate to put one through yours.
Stay away, and when in danger, open fire. If you cannot defend yourself or do not want to, then stay far far away. Remember, this is not a new thing.
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Just recently came off a war ship hunting pirates. I will say this, although I understand where they are coming from and why they are doing it, they also understand the consequences. That said, the only thing that they deserve is a shot to the head. If you disagree, then that is ok, but they won't hesitate to put one through yours.
Stay away, and when in danger, open fire. If you cannot defend yourself or do not want to, then stay far far away. Remember, this is not a new thing.
First off, thank you for your service.

Quick question:
What is the RoE for the Coalition Maritime Campaign Plan in terms of a vessel in distress? Ie. A Sailing Vessel being fired at 25nm away.

If you call for help are you going to see a gunship come to your aid? Or are there some strict rules about sinking pirates by CMCP participants?

I have seen videos and read about say the dutch actively recovering a vessel from the hands of pirates and others of not offering to resolve the solution at all.
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I certainly do not agree that the pirates in Somalia ought to be doing what they are doing, but the circumstances that caused this aren't discussed very often. The commercial ships coming out of Suez are creating a dead zone in Somali Fishing territory and the Somali fisheries are all but dead. This was their major livelihood and the major shipping companies have completely disrespected Somali territory.

These people are desperate and need to feed their families. They see the attacks on the ships as a sort of revenge for destroying their way of life. I certainly feel for them. I don't condone what they do, but I understand why they do it.
Your statement would suggest you do not have a clear understanding of right and wrong. The reason why should not soften you approach in how you deal with right and wrong. Right and wrong are absolutes for all times and places.

When it comes to Pirates or Terrorism, one needs to ask how bad do you want to win? Either you want to win against evil or you don't. The problems we have now are caused by people who did not want to win bad enough. Its much better to deal with it when it is a small problem. The softer we are now, means the problem will be worse for those who follow after us.

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Theres an interesting episode from south park where Cartman becomes a Pirate. Its really funny. YouTube - Somalian pirates (OFFICIAL SOUTH PARK SONG)

Seriously tho, Because the stakes are so high with piracy, Its necessary to eliminate it asap.
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