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buying a boat without rigging

Just a quick question here from someone who dreams of purchasing a sailboat. (The colder it gets, the more I seem to be obsessed with the idea.) A Whitby 25 is available not too far from me. The boat has no mast, boom, sails, etc. Seeing as how this boat has been out of circulation for a while, is this a something that should stop my considering the boat?
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Building a rig for a boat can always be done. Buying one specifically intended for this boat in not necessary. That said, you may poop yourself at what it could cost. Talk to a rigger, find out what it might cost to rig one up. The mast section, the boom, and all the running rigging and standing rigging, ads up real quick.

Good luck.
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It can be done but as SVPrarieRose suggests the costs can add up quickly. If you are decently handy you can do a lot of it yourself (DIY).
People occasionally sell the rigging from a deceased boat on craigslist. There is a lot you need to know though to retro fit a different rig to a rig-less hull. Talking to a rigger is a good idea.
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I've only owned two boats, both Catalina's that have very active associations with lots of experts to lean on. I would not consider rigging my first boat unless your getting the hull for next to free and you've got a lot of time on the water to know what it is you ultimately want - in terms of rigging. Beyond rigging, there are many other things to consider. Cabin, Engine, Head, Electrical, etc. What are the chances a boat with no rigging has all that other "stuff" in working order ?

IMHO, the cost are going to pile up because there is so much detail and every piece of that detail cost lots of $$$.

Not trying to be discouraging, but a project boat is just that. A project. If this is your first boat, get one that is ready to sail. Your experience will be much better (again IMHO).

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If it is a Whitby 25 folkboat, there are lots of them around, a good support network, and lots of spares out there for them. Shipping costs may be prohibitive, but there is nothing spectacularly unusual about the spars or rigging that would prevent you from being able to have them made locally. Check with sailing clubs that are local to you, and see what if somebody knows somebody who may be able to help you out.
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Just a quick question here from someone who dreams of purchasing a sailboat. (The colder it gets, the more I seem to be obsessed with the idea.) A Whitby 25 is available not too far from me. The boat has no mast, boom, sails, etc. Seeing as how this boat has been out of circulation for a while, is this a something that should stop my considering the boat?
Buying a new mast, boom, rigging and set of basic sails would be very expensive, the least expensive way to get sails and rigging for this boat is to bay a different Whitby that has its rig and sails, and ...well..just go sailing. A boat like the one isn questions, is worth less than nothing.
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Just a quick question here from someone who dreams of purchasing a sailboat. (The colder it gets, the more I seem to be obsessed with the idea.) A Whitby 25 is available not too far from me. The boat has no mast, boom, sails, etc. Seeing as how this boat has been out of circulation for a while, is this a something that should stop my considering the boat?
A mast for a 25' boat is easily about $3,000 new. Throw another $1500 into it for standing and running rigging. That's $4500 to go sailing and a lot of headaches. That hull must be beautiful if you're even thinking about it. I'd pass.
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There's an old saying about sailboats - they are very much like women - the rigging costs more than the hull.
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If you want a proper yacht, this will be the most expensive option. If you just want a boat, then you should be able to redo the rig for cheap if you are prepared to really scrounge. We are talking used rigging, hard to find, difficult to inspect, but usually real cheap. I have seen masts for 25' boats listed on craigslist for less than $500. After buying all the fittings, even if done in the most industrial way possible, you are looking at probably another $1000 and a whole lot of work. Hundreds of hours.

I would go ahead and do the project. At least there will be a nice boat out there instead of a pile of rigging and an old hull.
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Don't believe these people that tell you it's going to cost $5000, that's for a new mast and all new yacht quality rigging done up by a pro. I am talking used mast, industrial galvanized rigging, and a lot of do it yourself work.

If you have a job, this is probably a bad idea.
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