Comparing 2 Yachts - Page 2 - SailNet Community

   Search Sailnet:

 forums  store  


Quick Menu
Forums           
Articles          
Galleries        
Boat Reviews  
Classifieds     
Search SailNet 
Boat Search (new)

Shop the
SailNet Store
Anchor Locker
Boatbuilding & Repair
Charts
Clothing
Electrical
Electronics
Engine
Hatches and Portlights
Interior And Galley
Maintenance
Marine Electronics
Navigation
Other Items
Plumbing and Pumps
Rigging
Safety
Sailing Hardware
Trailer & Watersports
Clearance Items

Advertise Here






Go Back   SailNet Community > General Interest > General Discussion (sailing related)
 Not a Member? 


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #11  
Old 01-14-2010
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Milton, DE
Posts: 593
Thanks: 2
Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts
Rep Power: 9
Flybyknight is on a distinguished road
Before Buying, Look to Sell

With great respect, I do not like either for a first boat, and with experience,
you may find things not going as planned, and regret the inevitable unanticipated additional expenses.

My council would be to look at "Class" boats like a J-22, Lightning, etc. just for example.
Why?
Because they are popular and maintain resale value over time.
Because they have "Class Associations" for helpful advice and social benefits as well.

Good Luck with your purchase.

Dick
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #12  
Old 01-14-2010
KeelHaulin's Avatar
STARBOARD!!
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,662
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Rep Power: 10
KeelHaulin will become famous soon enough KeelHaulin will become famous soon enough
Wait to find something in solid fiberglass. Glassed over plywood is not the best material for a monohull sailboat.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #13  
Old 01-14-2010
canadianseamonkey's Avatar
Caribbean Surveyor
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Now in Sosua, DR
Posts: 511
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 8
canadianseamonkey is on a distinguished road
Are you wanting to race or cruise?
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #14  
Old 01-14-2010
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 8
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Rep Power: 0
Marklumb is on a distinguished road
My council would be to look at "Class" boats like a J-22, Lightning, etc. just for example.
Why?
Because they are popular and maintain resale value over time.
Because they have "Class Associations" for helpful advice and social benefits as well.


I know what you mean a well known boat is a good way to go - mind you in New Zealand where I live we dont have the same makers a atkinson is a pretty well knwon yacht over here i am just wanting a yacht that will be relatively easy to handle as my girlfriend has no experience in sailing and will be learning. I will mostly be cruising and once we get up to speed maybe try a few races.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #15  
Old 01-15-2010
paulk's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: CT/ Long Island Sound
Posts: 2,533
Thanks: 4
Thanked 20 Times in 19 Posts
Rep Power: 15
paulk is on a distinguished road
I might be tempted by the Atkinson, it being bigger and cruise-equipped with anchor roller, rod holders, and a comfy cockpit with easy water access. It is a LOT cheaper. The listing omits the build date (on purpose, perhaps?) and as you say, the construction looks reasonably well done, though not fancy. On the other hand, the girlfriend will need a door to the head - ESPECIALLY if you expect her to sail on a boat she can't stand up in down below. So... seems like your decision has been made for you. Maybe you can get them to come down a little on the price.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #16  
Old 01-17-2010
Banned
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: MS Gulf Coast
Posts: 711
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Rep Power: 0
seabreeze_97 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by KeelHaulin View Post
Wait to find something in solid fiberglass. Glassed over plywood is not the best material for a monohull sailboat.
It's better than glass over balsa.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
  #17  
Old 01-17-2010
sailingdog's Avatar
Telstar 28
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: New England
Posts: 43,291
Thanks: 0
Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts
Rep Power: 13
sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice sailingdog is just really nice
Quote:
Originally Posted by seabreeze_97 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by KeelHaulin View Post
Wait to find something in solid fiberglass. Glassed over plywood is not the best material for a monohull sailboat.
It's better than glass over balsa.
Seabreeze—

You must not know much about cored laminate construction.

Marine plywood is the worst of all the core materials. It is heavy, unlike balsa or foam core materials. It has the worst characteristics of both balsa and foam core materials. Like balsa, plywood will rot when exposed to water for an extended period of time. Like foam, it can allow water to migrate and delaminate relatively large areas of the hull or deck in a relatively short period of time.

As core materials go, end-grain balsa is one of the best. The problem with using it is that the boat builder and the owner must take care to prevent water intrusion in to the core. If that is done, a balsa cored laminate is one of the strongest and lightest you can get.

Keelhaulin's point is valid... but a properly designed cored laminate can make for a very nice boat, that is stiffer, lighter and stronger than solid glass would be.
__________________
Sailingdog

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Telstar 28
New England

You know what the first rule of sailing is? ...Love. You can learn all the math in the 'verse, but you take
a boat to the sea you don't love, she'll shake you off just as sure as the turning of the worlds. Love keeps
her going when she oughta fall down, tells you she's hurting 'fore she keens. Makes her a home.

—Cpt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity (edited)

If you're new to the Sailnet Forums... please read this
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
.

Still—DON'T READ THAT POST AGAIN.

Last edited by sailingdog; 01-17-2010 at 07:10 AM.
Reply With Quote Share with Facebook
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

 
Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
US Yachts - 27'' - 1982 l1031 Boat Review and Purchase Forum 7 09-22-2009 11:30 PM
SAGA YACHTS Bluesmoods Boat Review and Purchase Forum 20 07-03-2007 10:34 PM
Panerai Classic Yachts Challenge Sponsorship Program Docks in Nantucket for a Week of Sailing (PR Newswire via Yahoo! Finance) NewsReader News Feeds 0 08-17-2006 01:19 PM
the J class yachts sailingforever General Discussion (sailing related) 1 04-12-2006 12:26 AM
Destinations Greece = GPSC Yachts richi Chartering 1 10-04-2003 10:31 AM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:32 AM.

Add to My Yahoo!         
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.1
(c) Marine.com LLC 2000-2012

The SailNet.com store is owned and operated by a company independent of the SailNet.com forum. You are now leaving the SailNet forum. Click OK to continue or Cancel to return to the SailNet forum.