WHAT IS THIS BOAT? identification appreciated

[SABALMINOR]

Trying to identify this boat. Have been told it's a 1974 Palmer Lippencott 25, but can't find any thing even closely related.
Specs: 24' 8" LOA, 10'6" beam, fin keeled, 4' draft, flush deck, internal halyards lead through cockpit from inside, no hatch 'door's ... only sliding hatch top, roomy sub-cabin.
Can't find any hull number or any insignia on vessel.
Sails are manufactured by Seidelmann, New Jersey. Sailbags are marked Palmer 550.
Sails have no logo/insignia.
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Any info appreciated!
Thnx.*AJ*

[bljones]

If it helps, Mauri Pro has sail info for the Palmer 550 on their database.

Sailboat Rig Dimensions for boat starting with P

[SABALMINOR]

Thanks for your imput.

Yes, bljones ... I saw that match too, however, my searches did not find a match for the Palmer 550 sailboat to see an image of one. The sailmaker's listing for this entry is for a boat 55 feet LOA. It's quite possible
the sailbags are incorrectly named/marked.

I was hoping with all the knowlegable captains here, we might come up with
a match.

Any other suggestions of where I could post my inquiry (I've also posted
this same request to the Boat Design Net Forum)?

I know someone out there knows about this model sailboat.

*AJ*

[Jeff_H]

I receiced your email asking me about this boat. I do not know this boat speifically, but she appears to be a semi-custom, MORC Boat. I seem to recall that Lippencott built MORC boats on a custon and semi-custom basis. If I had to guess I would say this is probably a near sistership to the G&S designed 'Einstein' that was here on the Chesapeake for a number of years and which I beleive is up on Long Island Sound. These boats were closely related to the later S2 7.6's. I have seen several boats of this general design and some were originally constructed with dagger boards and converted to fixed keels when MORC changed decreasing the rating advantage of the dagger board.

Here is a rating description of Einstein.
nbr hkp dst wlns dstns chgd added yr j i p e loa lwl beam drup drdn dspl blst prop crew furlerbelow mhchute designer comment1
class: Custom 25
code: EINSTEIN
nbr: CTM 25
hkp:147
dst: 147
wlns: 147
dstns: 147
chgd: 6/08
added 6/08
j: 9.8
i: 33.9
p:30.5
e: 11.2
LOA: 25.1
lwl: 19.8
beam: 8.5
drup: 5.9
dspl: 4,055
blst: 1,700
prop: exposed
crew 1,080
designer: G&S
Chute: masthead.
Comment: MORC boat.

Good luck,
Jeff

[SABALMINOR]

Jeff,
Thanks for the information. I have contacted some of the Lippincott family
in MD and am awaiting a reply.

On a Seidelmann thread you stated;

If I remember correctly Seidelmann was a New Jersey sail maker. In the 1970''s he produced an interesting little 25 footer. They were clearly designed as race boats and did acceptably well on the race course because they were intended as rule beaters.

The EINSTIEN you mention has a beam of 8.5 feet, this boat has a beam of
10.5 feet -- can you direct me to any images or sites that would have a reference to EINSTIEN? Could the boat in my images be one of these early
Seidelmann race boats?

Thanks again,
*AJ*