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Talking In case of apocalypse what sailboat and how to use it?

I got to thinking after watching a history channel series life without people. If it was really life without MOST people, what would you do? Assume 90% of the earths population dissapears from a disease or something that doesn't involve massive fallout or destruction.

After thinking about it, all the gasoline will go to crap to the point of unburnability within a few years so land transportation will be reduced to horses and wagons and the like, and since I know nothing about horses, I got to thinking about the water. Theres no gasoline so obviously I would live on a sailboat and either fish from one coastal settlement or try coastal trading (or raiding? arrr matey )

But what boat (or boats) to use and where to go? Eventually the useless Inboard motors and fuel tanks on most big boats would be removed and it would make a really nice cargo hold. Onboard water and electrical systems would be converted to hand pumps unless you play with solar or wind generation. How do you get a bigger keel boat out of the water without power? I don't see many hand crank lifts.

I also wonder about travel on the Mississipi since I live near it now. What would happen to the locks and dams and the river levels when they fail I don't know. Is it even possible to easily sail up the Mississipi as far as the lowest lock and dam assuming you have the whole river to use for tacking?
Maybe a different size boat for coastal work and a smaller one safely stored somewhere for river navigation.

I think I would hang around the lower Mississippi and the upper gulf, but where does one hide from hurricanes, up the river maybe? What if your too far away from it?

So much to consider.

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Just because there will be no post-apocalyptic pretroleum production is no reason to assume there will be no fuel. It's not that hard to convert a diesel engine to run on bio, or veggie oil- the meth of fuels, because any idiot with a passing interest in cooking and science can make it at home.

Yes, it may very well be that in the end, the only thing that will survive will be cockroaches, keith richards and stinkfoot hippies running veggie fuel co-ops.
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Yup the petrol will soon go but diesel keeps so all I need is a diesel dinghy and we are good to go. There is a guy puttering around Road Town with a diesel outboard as I write this.

More seriously if you have a sailboat with a raincatcher system and a wood stove plus a sailing dink you are pretty self sufficient. Sure food might be a bit boring but cartridges last a looooong time so the odd goat should make it into the pot and iguana is supposed to taste like chicken. I am not sure what boat might be best but a small catamaran that could be easily scrubbed on the beach is worth thinking about.

This could make a change from all the " Best bluewater boat threads ", how about what is the best "post apocalypse boat". How long before we would be back in dugout canoes?
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Making bio diesel in sufficient quantities would be a full time occupation for someone, definitely a good post apocalyptic job. Also you would have to have fuel production and storage everywhere you go which is more complicated.

Fuel Degradation In Storage.
From what I read here modern diesel doesn't keep all that well either, though thats technically an ad so grain of salt and all that.

A catamaran would definetely have a huge advantage for versatility being able to be run up on a beach when not in use or for repairs, especially on rollers, over a keel boat.

EDIT: After looking up bio diesel production its WAY too complicated and relies on too many things being readily available.

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But if you run up on the beach you risk getting eaten by zombies, so max payload capacity is important (more days you spend at sea = more days zombie-free, is my post-apocalyptic motto,) which is why cats are a weaker choice.

and trimarans are just zombie-bait, no matter what SD tries to tell you.
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We were way up north there in Orlando in Dec, and I made a special trip to Universal Studio to look at that boat again......

and the lady I asked said they moved it years ago. Its gone. Dang.

I hadda ride a bunch of rollercoasters and stuff to justify the cost of the tickets.
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Okay fine I will participate in the silly thread too, why not.

Wood boat, you can fix it with natural materials, wood chisels, and some other simple tools. That's my vote. Just have to find you some coastline that has trees, pine tar, natural fibers, etc, that is zombie free.
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