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Actually, in civil matters, especially dealing with the tax people, the burden of proof is on you.... not them.

I'd also point out that they could easily document your presence, given the advent of digital cameras... all they'd have to do is photograph the anchorage once a day for 90 days... They don't have to prove how long you were there each day, just that you were.

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Now let's say I violate the 90 day law, is the burden of proof on the local law enforcement? I feel like it might be difficult for them to prove I've been there for more than 90 days since I will be anchoring out. With the cruising grounds that I have in mind I doubt this will be any sort of problem. The particular anchorage in question has a good number of grounded abandoned vessels and no one seems to care much.

EDIT: for clarification the vessels mentioned above are abandoned and then ground themselves over several months of slowly dragging their anchors. So the quality of the sea floor for anchoring is not in question.

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Actually, in civil matters, especially dealing with the tax people, the burden of proof is on you.... not them.

I'd also point out that they could easily document your presence, given the advent of digital cameras... all they'd have to do is photograph the anchorage once a day for 90 days... They don't have to prove how long you were there each day, just that you were.
In the particular area I'm thinking of there is no way the local LEO's would have time to stop by and take a picture of who's there once a day. Just so I have an idea, does anyone care to share a general idea of how large a fine we're talking about? two figures, three, four...?
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It depends on the states tax rules and sailboats are a target

There allways issues between NY and Florida with snowbirds and taxes

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Are documented vessels included also.

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Yes, because all the states want your tax money.
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They sure do! If I remember correctly, Massachusetts demands you file taxes returns after 30 days.

( But, last I looked at it was 20 years ago, when I did my own taxes, was paid "earned income" by a Massachusetts company, and living in Texas. ymmv. )
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In the particular area I'm thinking of there is no way the local LEO's would have time to stop by and take a picture of who's there once a day. Just so I have an idea, does anyone care to share a general idea of how large a fine we're talking about? two figures, three, four...?
Just to play devil's advocate, I know of a few states that encourage citizens to turn in tax cheats, law breakers, and anyone who attempts to avoid licensing issues. And even provide a toll-free number for such purposes. So you might need to be worried about more than just LEO.
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Essentially it is the High Seas

There are laws and regulations, and if they are not mentioned on the chart or in the actual harbor, then hopefully local knowledge will alert you. Legally it is your responsibility to know where anchorage is okay, but in practice, anchor somewhere until you receive information that tells you you are in the wrong spot.
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Look..Don't make a federal case out of it. You paid sales taxes when you bought the boat. Florida tax varies from 5.5 to 7 percent. If you bought the bought in Connecticut and paid 6 persent the your good to go on taxes. Just go to tax office and get sticker. $35 I think and your legal.

As for anchoring there are a few communities causing issues but they are not enforcable because florida state law has been ruled on by the State Supreme Court and the State rewote the applicable laws to comply.

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Really bad advice... If you are in a state for a long enough period of time, they come after you for taxes... many states don't care if you paid sales taxes on the boat elsewhere, and will still come after you for use and/or excise taxes.

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Look..Don't make a federal case out of it. You paid sales taxes when you bought the boat. Florida tax varies from 5.5 to 7 percent. If you bought the bought in Connecticut and paid 6 persent the your good to go on taxes. Just go to tax office and get sticker. $35 I think and your legal.

As for anchoring there are a few communities causing issues but they are not enforcable because florida state law has been ruled on by the State Supreme Court and the State rewote the applicable laws to comply.

try here for full story

Cruiser's Net » Search Results » anchor laws

enjoy.

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