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Hi, I would like to know if anybody has any advice on storing portable fuel canisters. You know, like the ones used on force ten portable stoves. Can you store them in the fuel locker or do you have to have a dedicated propane locker?
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considdering the simularity of risk what differance does it make?
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You need to be careful with the propane bottles. A one pound bottle has enough gas in it to blow the deck off a boat. If you dont have a propane locker on your boat there are a couple of other options.

I think Magma sells a canvas bag that is designed to hand on your life lines and provide safe above deck storage. It holds three or 4 bottles. Make sure you position it where the gas would flow overboard (not into the cabin) if you had one leak. If you choose this option and dont go through the bottles very fast I would suggest that you seal the spare ones in heat sealed bags (like the ones used for sealing food for boiling). That way they dont rust.

Another way I have seen people store the bottles is inside a large diameter piece of PVC pipe that can be held to a life line stanchon with hose clamps. Im not sure how they get the bottom ones out. Maybe they have an l shaped lifter that goes to the bottom. That could be made from pvc too.

Before I took off for a race to Hawaii a few years ago I was required to have my boat surveyed. I hired a man who had just completed a circumnavigation. He found the little propane refiller for my gas grill lighter in a drawer below deck and told me, on no uncertain terms, that I should be storing that above decks. If that little bottle is dangerous, then the one pound ones are really dangerous.

Also, be especially careful of the bottles that are half used. If you remove the regulator they somtimes leak. you can heard it if you put the bottle to your ear. The rubber seal is supposed to close the bottle but if there was rust or other dirt on the bottle when you installed the regulator it can keep the seal from forming.
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ABYC says they have to be stored OUTSIDE where they can''t leak into open spaces. Use a propane tote bag by magma that hangs on the lifeline.

Don''t forget to disconnect the canisters after use, the appliances can also leak.
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Thank you! I have also been told not to put them in the fuel locker. Gas fumes are lighter than air but propane is not. It will tend to find the lowest point in the locker and try to seep into the boat.
I am going tolook into the magma bag.
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Whoa folks!!!
Gasoline fumes are heavier than air. don''t ever make that mistake. the only flamable gas that is not heavier than air is hydrogen. i''ll be honest and tell you that i''m not sure about CNG.
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Butane will rise, rather than sink, but is hard to come by. That''s why propane is so popular, it''s availability.

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Gas fumes are even heavier than propane. CNG is a bit lighter than air.
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I think I misquoted on the gas is lighter than air thing. I stand corrected. In saying that, I realize the gas on board is just as dangerous as any disposable propane bottles I might add. I wonder why a fuel locker [gas]doesn''t have to have an overboard drain like propane does? My fuel locker does have cowl vents [in - out] but does not have a drain.
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Ahoy, oneprcnt, me thinks yer head has enough drains for the both of you. Ever here of pollution?Ever spread a gas slick 100 yards astern so some landlubbing idiot can through his lit butt into it? Any way a true Pirate eats his dogmeat raw so wot all the hub bub ? The Pirate of Pine Island
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