Old boat fun means old boat work!

[slowpoke]

great job, you will have one of the best boats going in my opinion, i hate to see them die.

[SimonV]

The slot you identifed should have another one at the end of the bunk/seat. A back board fits in it so when you sit on the seat you will have a back rest the board is femoved to give you a wider bunk when sleeping.......I think!

[jrd22]

Great write up, keep us posted with progress. There has got to be a special place in heaven for people that resurrect neglected boats. Good job!

[daydreamer92]

Originally Posted by SimonV

The slot you identifed should have another one at the end of the bunk/seat. A back board fits in it so when you sit on the seat you will have a back rest the board is removed to give you a wider bunk when sleeping.......I think!

You know, that's what I thought too, otherwise you'd sort of be leaning awkwardly against the shelf behind the seat.
But I didn't find a matching slot anywhere.


And there was no board on the boat. No table either, for that matter. But that's ok, the table takes up too much room anyway.

[daydreamer92]

Since Friday is our "remove more stuff, get things out of the way" day, I am wondering how we remove trim that has no obvious screws. Like the thin trim in this photo. I don't really know that we MUST take it off, but if we want to, I have no idea how to go about it without snapping the wood.

Does one just pry it loose?

And how about bits like this?



I can see circular wooden "plugs" flush with the wood on the front of the rail but other than the metal strip at the top, I don't see any screws holding the whole hatch rail-thingie on.

(BTW, that out of focus compass is, by far, the shiniest thing on the boat. It looks brand spankin' new.)

[MARC2012]

If there are plugs there are screws under the plug.Plugs will not usually come out w/o being broken,gently chip out with knife.Can be made with plug bit & drill press(preferable) or bought.West has them aprox .40 a piece.When replacing little glue & line up grain best.Good luck,looking good.marc

[sailingdog]

Be careful taking out the plugs, since if they were glued or varnished in place, they may try and take a bit of the wood around them with them.

The top is probably fastened by the screws holding the aluminum piece down. The front is most likely the screws under the bungs/plugs.

[drobarge]

Originally Posted by sailingdog

Be careful taking out the plugs, since if they were glued or varnished in place, they may try and take a bit of the wood around them with them.

The top is probably fastened by the screws holding the aluminum piece down. The front is most likely the screws under the bungs/plugs.

With plugs, I would get the new ones ready first. Try a test hole to ensure a good fit on scrap a sharp forstner bit is a good choice. Then to remove the old ones start with a center punch in the old plug, then drill carefully and with LIGHT pressure into the old plug to bring it below the surface, finish with some small picks and stuff. If you find the screws are stainless, not bronze or other soft metal, drill a little deeper until the bit just touches the screw (be careful) with a forstner bit the bradpoint should hit the screw first not dulling the bit and reducing chance of damage to screws.

[daydreamer92]

Originally Posted by drobarge

With plugs, I would get the new ones ready first.

So people make their own plugs then?

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Anyway, the New Old Boat Owner experience marches on.

Today I mulled a lot about distance.

One thing going against us with regards to boat work is that we can only manage one day a week really; this is due to where the boat is relative to where we are. It's a 120 mile/2 hour drive one way. My husband works third shift and often pulls overtime which is hard to say no to and its been challenging to fit a long drive into a schedule that lets him sleep at some point in the day.

To that end, I am considering moving Tigress up to where we live. That's yet more money that I don't have at the moment. Also, I live in a townhouse, so don't have private property to put a boat onto. Finding a *close* place that has storage costs we can afford *and* let us work on it is... challenging. We're also a good hour inland from the ocean or other significant boating body of water, so its' not like there are boatyards around.

There is one marine shop, pretty much dealing in powerboats on trailers that I assume people then haul off to one of the various lakes up north, but he wanted 100/month + 25.00/mo in utilities. That's steep. (to me)

Oh well. Storage at the current yard is paid until end of June. I have until then to sort things out.

We went to Home Depot today, got a couple inexpensive items to help us continue our demolition. An angle drill thingie to get at things in places jabbing in your basic drill won't fit and an adorable screwdriver set to help take out -- you guessed it! -- screws.

Yes, I said it was adorable.

We also purchased a Black and Decker Mouse sander. We have our eye on a larger variable speed one, but expenses being as they are, we're starting small since we have small things to sand too. This has a finger attachment thing to get into narrow nooks. I know from looking already there are narrow nooks.

A multi-tool would probably make some of the work ahead easier. Fein seems to be THE ONE TO GET, but that's a bit out of our price range.

I'm also wondering that with the plethora of people who have replaced their Tartan 27s chain plate knees, if there isn't a template for the plywood knee available. I don't think we're gonna get a solid piece of anything out of this one, it looked like soil on the end of the bit. We'll see when we cut it open though.

Also am chasing down fun things like insurance (gotta have liability for the yard and what not), and documenting. I was gonna see if Boat US could help us with the documentation, but it seems they slap a pretty hefty fee on the top of the normal USCG fees. I don't see that the paperwork is $175.00 hard to be honest.

And other thing -- why does one have to measure their boat if it's a standard make/model? Shouldn't the USCG have at least one Tartan 27 already documented by now? I'd think in the age of computers and databases, someone could just tap in "Tartan 27" "1964" and see if it meets the size requirements.

Anyway, that's all this the stuff between Round 2 and round 3 coming up.

I'll remember to bring the camera Friday. Supposed to be quite nice of a day!

[christyleigh]

Originally Posted by daydreamer92

So people make their own plugs then?

A multi-tool would probably make some of the work ahead easier. Fein seems to be THE ONE TO GET, but that's a bit out of our price range.

Unless you have lots of extra teak just laying around that you bought in bulk (like I do) buying the plugs is just as cost and time effective.

I just bought the $40 Harbor Freight version of the $400 Fein muti-tool and if it breaks I'll buy another. It's a slick little tool that I've already used to do some cutting off of a teak fiddle that would have been a real pain to do without it.