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A little background info, the wind went from about 10-15kts to 35 with gusts to 45kts within about 10 minutes with little warning. Don't know the whole story but heard much of the conversation between the CG and fireboat. The tow was transfered to the fireboat, and the sailboat was dropped off at Elliot Bay. Lucky day for the owner.
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Okay - then I'll go ahead and ask the bastardy question...was the guy single-handing this boat? And is this a case of too much boat to handle for a lone skipper?

The reason I ask this is because the idea of just how "safe" single-handing is has been debated a lot - especially when considering the size/complexity of the boat. In my newbie mind, and seeing this vid, single-handing on a big multi-mast boat in heavy weather (even with a good engine) is rolling some pretty big dice.

I have no idea if this skipper was actually single-handed or not, I'm just asking the question because it looked that way.

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Good to see the Costies doing what they should be doing.

Doesn't matter Smack...lets say just for argument he was motoring in for one of those mooring buoys you see in the video...the wind came up and he got the prop fouled...There would not have been enough time that close to shore to get the sails up in 45 knot gusts with a full crew.
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Good to see the Costies doing what they should be doing.

Doesn't matter Smack...lets say just for argument he was motoring in for one of those mooring buoys you see in the video...the wind came up and he got the prop fouled...There would not have been enough time that close to shore to get the sails up in 45 knot gusts with a full crew.
That would indeed have been a very good reason to be so close to that shore.

If those winds came up as quickly as someone said they did, and he did foul his prop, he would be in quite a situation indeed. Even if he had gotten the main up, or even more sail, could he have made way off that lee shore?
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Okay - then I'll go ahead and ask the bastardy question...was the guy single-handing this boat? And is this a case of too much boat to handle for a lone skipper?

The reason I ask this is because the idea of just how "safe" single-handing is has been debated a lot - especially when considering the size/complexity of the boat. In my newbie mind, and seeing this vid, single-handing on a big multi-mast boat in heavy weather (even with a good engine) is rolling some pretty big dice.

I have no idea if this skipper was actually single-handed or not, I'm just asking the question because it looked that way.

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Well, we don't know what we don't know. The boat had an anchor down.

The "how safe" seems to be a topic here, but not generally. Size, complexity, sure, but the big factor you don't mention is 'experience'. Then there's experience with a particular boat. It's up to each of us to determine what his/her own risk threshold is and to build our experiences so hopefully we can handle a number of situations both man made and not. For some, single handing is foolishness. It was just one of those odd days that had it been on the weekend, there would have been a number of people in trouble, crewed or not.

From what I heard on the VHF, there seemed to be some issue mentioned with a mooring buoy. As said earlier, it was blowing about 10-15 and within a space of 5-10 minutes, was blowing 35 with gusts to 45.

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I swear I have seen that boat before. It was either here, or on SA, or on cruisers forum, some guy was thinking about buying it, but was apprehensive about the decks being soft. It was a ketch, dark green, less than 40ft. I am pretty sure it is the same boat because I recall her being somewhere between olympia and juneau.
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I only see an advertisment followed by a blank screen. Does it take a long time to load? It is really tough to Monday Morning Quarterback when not all the facts are revealed. But suffice to say, the skill level of the sailors needs to go up exponentally as you get down to one or two crew members. As a Tyro, you need to go out sailing often, and you need to challenge yourself every day in order to improve. It is why I encourage sailors to join in on racing either as crew or skipper as the race course forces you to focus on and hone your skills like nothing else.
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The black thing on the mast is the towing pendant. Glad to see the CG helping out boaters.
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A little background info, the wind went from about 10-15kts to 35 with gusts to 45kts within about 10 minutes with little warning.
My recollection was that increasing winds were in the weather forecast, at least further north in the Salish Sea.
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The black thing on the mast is the towing pendant. Glad to see the CG helping out boaters.
Cool. Thanks Mel - I hadn't seen that before.
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