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On-mast pole storage

What's you opinion re: storing the spinnaker pole vertically along the mast? How much would it affect airflow upwind? Seems like a very useful place for it to live -- our boat has zero room to keep it on deck and also no lifelines, and stashing an 8' pole in a 9' cabin becomes problematic, too.
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Maybe you could secure it vertically on a shroud??
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works great on the mast of my 85 Pearson 34
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Iíve seen Santana 22ís out here that store their poles along side the boom, resting inside a couple of rings (some guys use slings made out of line). Very quick and easy to run it out and set for a spinnaker run. On the other hand, I used to keep mine in the cabin and Iíd just pass it forward to the bowman. Small poles are easy to ĒmanhandleĒ (Iím assuming this is for your 18 or 21 footer?). The up on the mast is usually for boats with heavier poles and uses a T-Track at least as long as the pole, sliding rings or cars, topping lifts and all the associated blocks and control lines. The setup on my 34 footer was mucho expensive. It might be over kill on your boat(s).
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Iíve seen Santana 22ís out here that store their poles along side the boom, resting inside a couple of rings (some guys use slings made out of line). Very quick and easy to run it out and set for a spinnaker run. On the other hand, I used to keep mine in the cabin and Iíd just pass it forward to the bowman. Small poles are easy to ĒmanhandleĒ (Iím assuming this is for your 18 or 21 footer?). The up on the mast is usually for boats with heavier poles and uses a T-Track at least as long as the pole, sliding rings or cars, topping lifts and all the associated blocks and control lines. The setup on my 34 footer was mucho expensive. It might be over kill on your boat(s).
Thanks, George et al. It's a lightweight aluminum pole, only about 1.5" diameter, for our SJ21. It's too long to clip to the boom, really. To get it in and out of the tiny cabin, you literally have to shove it all the way into the forepeak, then weasel it sideways to the companionway. Heaven help you if you're loaded with cruising gear. The mast storage is purely to have it ready for use while being out of the way. The bottom would stay clipped to it's normal mast ring; the top pole end would clip to a similar ring or large eyestrap a fixed distance up the mast (no tracks or cars.) Snugging the topping lift would prevent pole-vaulting if the upper pole end came loose. When we want to fly the spi, we just ease the topping lift, pull the release cord, and the pole drops down either side, ready to use.

We want to practice dozens of hoists and douses this summer, until the motions are down pat. Since locally we sail on small lakes, it's unavoidable anyhow. That's a lot of pole handling. If it won't totally kill our upwind performance -- on-mast storage seems most popular with tradewind cruisers, who don't generally point -- it would be a handy $10 upgrade. I love the SJ21, but it is not a roomy vessel.
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hmmm. While I'll admit that I haven't looked closely at the SJ 21, I have a hard time imagining that the pole can't live on the boom. This works very well on most small boats, and can even work on larger boats with a light carbon pole. What it accomplishes is largely obviating the need for anyone to go forward of the mast to rig the pole.

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hmmm. While I'll admit that I haven't looked closely at the SJ 21, I have a hard time imagining that the pole can't live on the boom. This works very well on most small boats, and can even work on larger boats with a light carbon pole. What it accomplishes is largely obviating the need for anyone to go forward of the mast to rig the pole.
Pole is a bit over 8'; boom is only 9'4". We have jiffy reefing down one side and outhaul controls on the other. Also, we lightly bungee the mid reef points around the boom when reefing, which happens about four times a day. Might still work with pole on the boom, but.... More stuff to club you in the head in a jibe, too. We'll try it out, see how it feels.

You have to go forward to set the pole -- it's not doable from the companionway. On the mast, the topping lift & downhaul/foreguy could be left attached (pole uses central eyestraps for these, not a bridle.) I'll ask the Seattle SJ21 mob where they store theirs -- but they are all OD racers, so their needs and procedures may be different from ours. Never seen one on the boom. Bet they just toss it partway below. Many of em launch their chutes from laundry baskets wedged into the companionway.
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Pros: Out from underfoot. Fast to deploy. Clear of lines on deck.
Cons: Weight aloft. Easier to drop on someone's head.

Bottom line is you stow it wherever your foredeck crew thinks it works best, and if that doesn't work...re-evaluate the crew and the pole.
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