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3/23/10, 1227 hrs PDT, two matching sloops just went south down the Swinomish Channel. Each were 40 sumpthin feet long named Lively and Vigilant. Anyone know the rest of the story on these boats?

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If they are the same boats I am thinking of, however they are very far from home, they are the Navy 44's built by Pearson. The USNA uses them for offshore sail training and racing. Fantastic boats. I am hoping to volunteer as an instructor this fall on them if I can commit the time. My favorite name is the "Dandy" Most of them have very powerful names, but the last few delivered are a bit different.
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They might have been 44 feet long. Here they are:


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The older ones i have seen auctioned off are pretty used-up and badly in need of a BIG refit

The other thing i have seen when they come up this way to race is NOT droping out of and event

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erps,

Those look like the Navy 44 STC Mark II boats. They are used at Annapolis as Sail Training Craft (STC). They were designed by Dave Pedrick and built at Pearson Composites.

They replaced the previous Mark I version, which in turn had replaced the earlier Luders Yawl 44s.

That's pretty cool that they are all the way over in your neck of the woods. I wonder what the story is?

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Well they were pretty and one was even displaying its motoring cone. I think that's the first time I've seen one displayed. We found one on board Nikko (black cone) when we bought her and I had to look up what it was for. I thought it was a wizzard hat.

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Dan...Eryka's (who posts frequently on here) husband and is currently in the Bahamas was an instructor at The USNA who taught the "squids" how to sail the navy boats. He probably could give you the correct lowdown on them as well as the new ones they just purchased.

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I'd point out that Eryka and Dan's internet access is a bit spotty as they're out cruising.

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There was a review of the Navy 44 in the August 2008 Practical Sailor. I saw one at the Annapolis Sailboat Show a couple of months later. What a boat. Very solid, fast, but pretty spartan.
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The boats that were retired from training middies at Annapolis went to schools around the country with Navy ROTC programs and continued in service training future leaders for our Navy. I know several went to the west coast and some that weren't needed for ROTC training went to auction.

Probably the most interesting thing is that before any Government equipment like this goes to auction it is offered to other agencies within the government that might have a need. Some scammer in the FAA, got hold of the forms to request stuff and was able to basically steal one of these ex-Navy boats. Remarkably, he got away with it and no one in the process ever questioned what the FAA might need a 40 odd foot sailboat for. He continued his larcenous ways and was finally caught but not before he stole hundreds of thousands worth of computers and a Cessna 210 airplane to go with his boat.

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