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What did you hear bad about us and where? Our record is 100% spotless with Tohatsu.
Hey tohatsuguru- since you're monitoring this thread; 1st off, I have no problem ordering from you guys.

Any chance you could give your thoughts on the Sailpro? On paper, it looks perfect. Most T-22's are powered in that range. With a rated displacement of 3100 lbs, the 1/500 formula isn't far off. I assume it acconts for a certain amount of fudge factor like a heavy cruising load, or passengers. My concern is that the only user reports I have seen aren't great. While some have said they like the motor, they haven't really said how they use them- for example, just through the mooring field, or for hours at a time when there is no wind.

Any thoughts on how this motor might compare to a 1996 short shaft 2 stroke johnson? How about noise and vibration?

I really appreciate people's input here. $1500-$2000 is a pretty big outlay for me. I just want to do it right.
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Huh?

Did I just read, "short shaft, two stroke johnson?"!!!!!!!
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One to 500 is the minimum we recommend rather than a set guideline for perfect power. In fact, the only negative user report was from Scott(Audeojude) who was using the 6 on a load that exceeded 3000 lbs...Hence his issue with the engine reaching it's rated hp. When he purchased that 6(from another dealer) it came with a higher pitched propeller. The "pig" propeller was not available for sale in the U.S.(except through us) so he ended up wasting a lot of effort trying to fix an engine that wasn't broken. At last report, he was satisfied, though not thrilled with the engine.

Personally I like the 6, if it is utilized for what it is intended. Boats up to 25' and under 3000 lbs. I like it even better when that load is under 2500 lbs as the closer you get to 3000 the more likely you are to be in a situation that a single cylinder 6 can't handle. People also tend to forget about the windage that a hull can have, which can also work against a small engine. So, I would tell you that you really should go with a two cylinder, 6-9.9, in any brand, as a first choice. A 6 Sail Pro will work for you, but there will be times where you will wish you had more.

The Johnson would be a bad choice due to it being a short shaft and 15 years old. In it's day it was a great engine, but anything over ten years old does not meet the requirement of dependable power. That crosses every brand and model line. Lot's of individual exceptions to that...But, that is the reason they are exceptions Current engines I would look at would be the Yamaha 6/8 and the Tohatsu/Nissan/Mercury 8/9.8/9.9. I prefer the Tohatsu, but I am self serving

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I appreciate the input. I guess I I wasn't clear about the Johnson 6hp; I wasn't suggesting I buy one- I have one. It is the only outboard I have owned, so it is my benchmark.

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I would keep the Johnson as a spare, but the rest still holds true...Too short and too old

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A "short shaft " ? A friend of mine HAD one, got caught in a major storm, and spent 20 hours getting bashed around as the motor was out of the water 75 % of the time due to waves . I think he now uses it to power his blender and makes drinks ! LOL

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I have a Pearson Triton with a Tohatsu Sail Pro 6hp and I love it. My boat fully loaded weighs in around 9000lbs and the Sail Pro will push me around at 5 knots easily at half throttle. Most peoples dissatisfaction with small horsepower outboards stems from the fact that they are motoring when they should be sailing. I would have to say that 6hp outboards are becoming the standard for the Pearson Triton.
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I know this is an older thread that has just popped back up - but a word of warning if you go for a Tohatsu. We have a 20HP Tohatsu and love it, BUT finding a dealer for repairs and finding parts like zincs has proven to be difficult. If you buy a Tohatsu make sure you know if there's an authorized service center near you in case of a warranty repair - and if you buy a zinc, buy three. While I like our engine, I wish I had spent the extra few bucks on a Honda 20HP - lighter, and far more dealers and part accessibility.

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I really think I'd like to step down to something just a little smaller because I can't lock the Honda in the "up" position because it's too big.

What I can't figure out is how to make an honest swap with someone, so that I get a GOOD, slightly used, running engine for my boat. (
Hey Bubblehead...I know this is a year old post from a resurrected thread, but if you're still in the same boat (so to speak) I need to trade up for more power. I have a great little Yamaha 5HP 2 stroker on my C25....it's a great motor, lightweight and runs like a champ....but I need just a little more oompfh. If you're serious about trading that Honda 9.9.....



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Tohatsu SailPro

I have used a SailPro 6 for three seasons on my Hunter 23.5. Hullspeed easily achieved, reliable, good fuel consumption and it tops up house-battery when motoring from Blaine WA to San Juans. Only complaint: steer-damping thumbscrew not adequate to hold course at low speed.
Since some cretin stole it from my garage I am now looking to replace with same.
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