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n8kraft 04-24-2010 09:32 AM

OUPV six pack with Sail endorsement?
 
Hi all,

I'm a U.S. Navy sailor who is also the proud skipper of a Catalina 27. I'm interested in the US Coast Guard's Operator of Uninspected Passenger Vessels with sailing endorsement. My questions are:
Does anyone out there have experience with this?
Will my 2+ years of sea time (actually out to sea, not just serving onboard ship) count towards my time?

-Nate

speciald 04-24-2010 09:57 AM

The time should count. You will need to document your "days at sea" on a form. You should have enough time to qualify for a master's ticket. The exam is more difficult for the "6 pack " than for the master's. I would suggest going to a course as they will give an exam with a smaller question pool and will teach you the answers in the instruction. The plotting part of the test is the part that gets most people.

n8kraft 04-24-2010 10:04 AM

Cool. Now I just need to spend more time on the bridge to learn plotting. My Command Master Chief recommended the "Conn" qualification. Thanks for the quick reply!

sailingfool 04-24-2010 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speciald (Post 596910)
The time should count. You will need to document your "days at sea" on a form. You should have enough time to qualify for a master's ticket. The exam is more difficult for the "6 pack " than for the master's. I would suggest going to a course as they will give an exam with a smaller question pool and will teach you the answers in the instruction. The plotting part of the test is the part that gets most people.

Some clarifications:
1. to qualify for a sailing endorsement, the claimed service has to have been on a sail or sailing auxiliary vessel.
2. The test for a 6-pack is a subset of the test for a master's although the difference is trivial.
3. The navigation test can be difficult, as it..err..requires that you know navigation
4. IMHO for experienced boaters the deck general section is much more difficult as most of what it covers we simply don't know, which is where the open book helps out.

I concur with taking a course if you can afford it, I got my masters on my own and doing so requires a lot of process experimentation.

FSMike 04-24-2010 08:19 PM

I don't think that an OUPV license has a sail endorsement. You need to get up to master's tickets before you have to worry about that. With an OUPV the ability to captain uninspected sailing vessels is included.
Back when I tested, time on actual sailing vessels was not required for a sail endorsement; all you had to do pass the sail test.
Of course that was a little while ago. Things may have changed.

speciald =
Why do you say that the OUPV exam is more difficult than a master's?

Tempest 04-25-2010 09:37 AM

Here's a Link to The CFR 46 with the various requirements for licenses.

There's a chapter for Military sea time 10.213

2002 CFR Title 46, Volume 1

I also, don't believe a sail endorsement is attached to an OUPV,
I have a sail endorsement attached to my 100 ton Masters License, and it required credible service aboard sailing vessels, and a test.

You can take a sail endorsement class at places like Sea School and take their exam, get a certificate and document your time.


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