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STCH, thank you for giving us the other side of the story. It's always nice to get as much information as posible about a situation. Hope you enjoy the site.

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STCH—

Thank you for your side of the story and welcome to Sailnet. I would recommend you read the Special Interest Disclosure thread in the Boat Buying forum and comply with it, as you are considered a marine industry person...

I am a bit curious as to why the owner of the Gulfstar did not put out an anchor to prevent the boat from being pushed further aground. It would seem to me to be a sensible precaution to take at a minimum. If he had done so, it is probable that the grounding would have been just that, a grounding...rather than escalating into a salvage situation. What is your thought on this.

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Very good point, SD. I'm also curious as to why the Sea Tow boat did not suggest this and assist with deploying of the anchor.
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Well, financially, it wasn't in their interest to do so... But, there may have also be extenuating circumstances—like the wave action causing damage to the boat if it wasn't allowed to wash further aground—which seems a bit unlikely, but it is a possibility. As I wasn't on scene, I'd like to hear what the SeaTow guys say.

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Very good point, SD. I'm also curious as to why the Sea Tow boat did not suggest this and assist with deploying of the anchor.

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I would also like to hear why these very experienced towboat operators didn't set out an anchor to limit the damages.
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I'd like to know, given what was described to this point, what could possibly justify an initial quote of 40 grand.

Unreal.

Even charging ten grand for a using your (precious) air bags and a power boat to yank a boat off a bar is robbery in a sane world.
1. Based on the other inaccuracies in the original post, I'd take the $40K quote with a conch-sized grain of salt.

2. Don't want to pay $10K? Fine. Buy insurance, in addition to the Boat US towing coverage. Don't think air bags have value? do a quick search here for the sad story of the S/V Distant Star, and see what happens when somebody decides to take the DIY approach to salvage. He would have LOVED to have some (precious) airbags.

3. It ain't robbery if you agree to the deal. I'm pretty sure that the guys at Seatow did not hold a gun to the stranded owner's head to make him use their services. He could have told them to bore it and stroke it.

4. According to SeaTow, TWO attempts were made the day before to unground him at NO CHARGE, during a small craft advisory.
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Very good point, SD. I'm also curious as to why the Sea Tow boat did not suggest this and assist with deploying of the anchor.
That would have been too easy, and could have meant a free tow when the tide rose, rather than the $10k they were able to con from the boatowner, once his situation worsened. Starting negotiations at $40K is downright criminal...
The explanations of what constitutes a free tow by the Sea Tow operator should also raise a few eyebrows about the company's policy towards its members. A 15 minute time limit for ungrounding? Not very realistic...
I agree with the OP, Piracy.......
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Sea Tow Charlotte Harbor always advises customers to set an anchor, this is standard operating procedure. As soon as we receive a call, the dispatcher advises the customer to set an anchor. In this particular situation, the customer was advised numerous times to set his anchor. Sea Tow captains, including MYSELF offered to set an anchor for this customer. The customer repeatedly refused to set an anchor himself or allow us to set an anchor for him. I did not choose to include this in my first post because I did not wish to disparage the customer. I have drawn my own conclusions as to the customer’s lack of reasoning and logic in this situation and remember; I was on scene and witnessed his behavior. This is all I want to add, I will leave all knowledgeable boaters to draw their own conclusions.
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And now, as Paul Harvey used to say, the rest of the story...

Thanks for coming on SN with the other side... Salvage is a risky and very expensive business and it ain't cheap....

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