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I encountered an oil sheen last night @ 29.30N/93.30W; was informed by a monitoring vessel that a large slick is located about 40 Nm East of that position and is moving west @ .75 Kts.
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It's not a 'true' Lake, since it's open to Mississippi Sound and the Gulf via two passes, the Chef and the Rigolets. These passes are deep because they're tidal. Therein lies the rub. The tide runs hard and it's difficult to contain all oil on an incoming tide.

I think it'll not be as bad as we fear, large globs may not get in, but smaller tarballs will. The latter are easier to clean up.

I swam at Pontchartrain Beach yesterday (you have to hop fences and floodwalls to get in, due to levee construction). Beautiful clean water, at least by Lake standards (the Lake was pretty bad 20 yrs ago, much much better now), so I hope I'm right about fairly minimal effect. I sail there (south shore) and would like to continue to swim there, beach or no.

Dam! Nothings safe!

Watched the news last night and the talking heads on msnbc are scared. If the relief wells don't work they are finally talking about doing what I said 2 months ago. Just implode the well. It sounded like they know Obama's presidency could be riding on this spill.
They are afraid the well wall is compromised to much for the cement to stick and the mud to slow down the leak. I have to agree if this doesn't work there will be hell to pay.
And from what the attorney for the Gulf residents said BP is talking to him the Gov, USCG, and the EPA then going across the street to meet with the bankruptcy attorneys they hired.
This is like something out of Dallas.
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Dare we hope that the new cap just put over the riser pipe might actually work?

New well cap to get 'integrity testing' - CNN.com

We've been so used to stuff not working out, but if this one does, and the well is still sound, then dare I say it--this might give the poor old Gulf a much-needed break until the relief well comes in.
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Dare we hope that the new cap just put over the riser pipe might actually work?

New well cap to get 'integrity testing' - CNN.com

We've been so used to stuff not working out, but if this one does, and the well is still sound, then dare I say it--this might give the poor old Gulf a much-needed break until the relief well comes in.

Let's wait and see first. I'm not going to start celebrating just yet. But if this does work we might finally be able to get on with our lives down here.
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http://www.wkrg.com/gulf_oil_spill/article/epa-says-chemical-dispesant-is-far-less-toxic-than-oil/902493/Jul-01-2010_5-16-pm/

MOBILE, Alabama - BP started using chemical dispersants in April to break apart the massive amount of oil in the Gulf. In May, the Environmental Protection Agency told BP to find a less toxic dispersant to use. But BP never did, and continued using a dispersant called "Corexit."
Now after initial tests, the EPA says Corexit is less toxic than oil.

Dr. Bob Shipp is a popular marine biologist who thinks dispersants will do more harm than good. "I just can't understand it. I just can’t understand EPA’s role in this at all, it makes no sense. You shouldn't use dispersants anyway because it makes the oil far more difficult to handle. It allows it to enter the ecosystem and it's going to have some negative effects."

Dr Shipp says the oil would be easier to clean up without dispersants.
"The oils on the surface, you can burn it, you can skim it, if it gets on the beach you can clean it up. You're not destroying the oil by putting it into the water column, it's still there."


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Knot we both know what dispersants do.
They put the oil in the column thus making it look like it isn't as bad as it is and it makes it look like BP cares and is cleaning the spill up.
My question still remains. Why aren't any of these people under indictment for this mess? How much of that 20 Billion is really going to the people if the Gulf?
That money needs to be watched like a hawk and followed. I don't trust anyone in Washington to do the right thing here anymore.
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I'd point out that BP's choices to skimp on safety in the design of the well led directly to the deaths of 11 people... why aren't BP and its executives being tried for those deaths???

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im only guessing, as im no roughneck, but i would think they have to sign some kind of legally binding 'waiver of damages' or some such thing to sign on.

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A waiver or disclaimer isn't always binding if there is negligence involved.

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First of all this would be a workers compensation claim. To take to into the world of a civil tort you must prove gross negligence just not negligence.


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