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way too early to celebrate...and sad the remaining damage will likely fall from the media, and into a tough fix, with little attention by BP and this Pres...

I am keeping my fingers crossed, and hope for a real cleanup to start ASAP.
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C'mon, bay-bee, let it be a good pressure-test, c'mon.....

Hope it's time for some good news here at last.
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Yeah, you guys have really taken a beating. Not to mention the wildlife. Let's hope Christmas came early this year!
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Thank God the flow of oil has stopped.

Now to concentrate on the clean up.

One of the first orders of priority should be to stop the use of dispersants. At least until we know all the facts about the stuff.

I would have hoped that we could expect a little more cooperation from the people involved.
But I suppose that they needed a little more time to prepare. I mean I'm sure that they had no idea that they would ever need to testify about their product.



Sen. Barbara Mikulski said she might subpoena Nalco Holding Co. executives to testify at a future hearing after the maker of a chemical dispersant being used to combat the Gulf of Mexico oil spill declined to testify today.

ďI want the record to show that the Nalco did decline, that its board of directors is made up of industry executives from BP, Exxon, Monsanto and Lockheed. And Iím sorry that they didnít come, because I think they do a lot of good things, and there are questions that we have.

Mikulski Puts Oil Dispersant Maker on Notice - Washington Wire - WSJ
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"On Notice" = "spend more on lobbying"
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Oh, and to quickly address the bitching and whining in this thread...

...drilling is plenty safe when companies don't cut a bunch of corners like BP did. They repeatedly ignored warnings from their engineers and subconsultants, and repeatedly pushed horribly unsafe practices to shave a few days off their schedule. You can blame regulators for poor oversight, or you can blame BP for being a terrible company full of idiots who don't know how to do a cost benefit analysis, but this would not have happened if Exxon or Amoco was in charge.

Spill clean up blame is a different animal entirely, which goes partially back to BP lying on their permit, and partly due to congress tying the hands of government after the Valdez, and partly back to the executive branch's unwillingness to break congress's rules in the face of an emergency, and partly due to a lot of other crap.

I've been told that all the bluefin tuna on the entire eastern seaboard spawn off the coast of Louisiana once a year. The effects of this spill aren't going to be fully known for a long time.
Yep exactly, well said and I have said similar a few times in this thread, especially to those who say "its all part of drilling". Drilling itself is safe, BP's operations were unsafe. If drilling was so dangerous, we would have had several more bad oil spills since the exxon valdez. Then again, that was a ship accident, not an oil rig explosion resulting from faulty equipment and poor risky decisions.
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About like this President to sick his crew on Nalco...even though HIS EPA approved the stuff..doesn't matter to him...someone is to blame...


and to blanket state dispersants should not be (or have been) used is just uneducated parroting. there is a place for them and surfectants...but ya gotta be careful...it doesn't make the oil "go away" magically. just breaks it down so enzymes can feed and drops it from the water column...

last I heard, the valve is still holding...but we did have an earthquake this am in DC....they MUST be related??!!??
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Oh, and to quickly address the bitching and whining in this thread...

...drilling is plenty safe when companies don't cut a bunch of corners like BP did. They repeatedly ignored warnings from their engineers and subconsultants, and repeatedly pushed horribly unsafe practices to shave a few days off their schedule. You can blame regulators for poor oversight, or you can blame BP for being a terrible company full of idiots who don't know how to do a cost benefit analysis, but this would not have happened if Exxon or Amoco was in charge.

Spill clean up blame is a different animal entirely, which goes partially back to BP lying on their permit, and partly due to congress tying the hands of government after the Valdez, and partly back to the executive branch's unwillingness to break congress's rules in the face of an emergency, and partly due to a lot of other crap.

I've been told that all the bluefin tuna on the entire eastern seaboard spawn off the coast of Louisiana once a year. The effects of this spill aren't going to be fully known for a long time.
That's a whole lotta parts adding up to one big Problem, that's what we have been saying all along. there is more then enough blame to go around here.
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About like this President to sick his crew on Nalco...even though HIS EPA approved the stuff..doesn't matter to him...someone is to blame...


and to blanket state dispersants should not be (or have been) used is just uneducated parroting. there is a place for them and surfectants...but ya gotta be careful...it doesn't make the oil "go away" magically. just breaks it down so enzymes can feed and drops it from the water column...

last I heard, the valve is still holding...but we did have an earthquake this am in DC....they MUST be related??!!??
It's a little to early to jump for joy yet but the valve is holding THANKYOU JESUS!!!
The quake didn't hurt anything did it? The news said they hadn't found or seen any damage. Things are getting crazy these days. Montreal had a quake last month. When was the last time that happened?
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Now to concentrate on the clean up.

One of the first orders of priority should be to stop the use of dispersants. At least until we know all the facts about the stuff.
Dispersants are effective only on fresh oil and not old weathered oil. The decision to stop using them is inevitable.
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