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Eryka,

I must have missed that you were a Northport based boat. It is easily the greatest location for convenience to the northern lake. I have been on their list for years and finally got the call this year....after I had commited to my slip and am on the hook for half the fee not being refundable. Hopefully next year.

You are correct, NP has changed a lot in the last 8 years. With the hospital
closing the majority of the employement opportunities went with it. Restaurnats closed, empty store fronts, even quieter than before.

However, what a great place for a boat to be based. TC to NP can be an all day slog, but from NP you can easily go to Charlevoix for lunch or to Beaver. When we leave the Bay I always take the boat to NP to start the trip.

Right now it is 40 degrees and predictions of 2-3" of snow tonight and tomorrow. You probably don't miss that part much.
We had a mooring off the Northport Bay Boat Yard, and ducked into the Muni. marina as transients whenever the winds blew from the SE. We didn't even bother trying to get on the marina wait list, though, at the time the wait was >5 years for our size boat and we knew we'd be transferred again before our names came up. Good for you for finally getting in - how long was your wait?

Really loved the trip to Charlevoix - did that many times in the 4 years we were in MI. But, although beautiful, the season was short ... snow??!! Now??!! I'll take the Bahamas, thanx, where we spent last winter.
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Also, if they were able to take it, why don't we see more of them on the Lakes? They may be out there, but in our experience, we don't see them on the water.
That is true. In my many years of going to Grand Haven, I do not recall a lot of sailing cat's.
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Eryka,

I cleared the list in 8 years, as I signed up for it a couple of years prior to buying this boat. Unfortunately, because I was already commited ( and paid for) in my old marina I have to wait and hope for next year. This is one of the first times in years that Northport has had more than one opening.

Yes, we did have sideways snow and temps in the 30's over the weekend. Today a beautiful clear day with highs in the 50's. Bouy in the middle of the lake says that the water temp is still below 40.

Enjoy the heat.

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Tim,

I think that the lack of multi's out there is more of a financial issue than a bridgedeck issue. I have never sailed on a large multi in more than 5 footers, but it was a smooth ride when we did. You would have to ask the multi sailors here for specific design issues, but I do see them out there in big stuff and sailed right they do just fine.

The financials of the boat and mooring will continue to keep the numbers down. The boat is pricey to begin with and then most of them are delivered on their own bottoms. There is a reason that you don't see lots of multi's at Strictly Sail. In addition, double wide slips are few and far between...and very expensive.

Some of the big cats and tri's are fun to watch. I was motoring into Northport at about 6 knots after the wind died last year coming back from Beaver Is. A 35' tri SAILED by me like I was standing still. I had dropped sail because we were only moving at 4 knots and losing light.
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I understand what you are saying.

It's just a bit puzzeling to me that they are so popular in the islands and other parts of the world but have never caught on to the degree that they have here.

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Regarding running to shelter, I have more of a fear of a lee shore than waves in the middle of the Lake. It's not the lake but the hard things at the edge that will sink you.
We do the run from Waukegan to the Manitou passage then north, and on the occasions that things got nasty, we stay out away from shore.

This: is better than "BANG". Even when they're steep and breaking.

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What would be more dangerous for a 27' boat: Say 20 foot ocean swells, or 15 foot short steep breaking waves on Lake Michigan.

If you mess up, or have a mechanical in 15' short/steep/breaking are you in deep trouble?
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What would be more dangerous for a 27' boat: Say 20 foot ocean swells, or 15 foot short steep breaking waves on Lake Michigan.

If you mess up, or have a mechanical in 15' short/steep/breaking are you in deep trouble?

20' ocean swells with a long period are no problem. 15' short/steep/breaking are boat breakers. Even half that is unpleasant if you're going upwind.
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If you mess up, or have a mechanical in 15' short/steep/breaking are you in deep trouble?
Yes.
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Barquito,

Definetely the 15' breakers would be a bigger problem. That being said, you don't get waves of that height on Lake Michigan without plenty of warning. If you don't look at your weather window before going out, you unfortunately deserve the ride that you will get....and the breaking of equipment that will probably occur. Noting wrong with a 27' boat crossing the lake, big problem for some boats and most sailors to experience it in 15 footers.

I would also agree with Cormeum about lee shores, but his boat is also going to be much more comfortable out there in those conditions. I would bet he would not set out if he knew they were going to occur as he has enough to maintain without punishing that beauty.
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