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Chef2sail, see you Saturday September 18th evening.

I will post updates on the First Post

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Plan A: Leave Friday a little after 9 and try to catch up with Ulladh. This depends on my friend's availability, and there is a possibility of his cancellation at the last minute, in which case...

Plan B: Leave Saturday about the same time, arrive too late for the picnic.

I haven't sailed the C250 for over 2 weeks. Coming home from the Grand Canyon tomorrow. Last week I was doing stuff like this in the Phantom:

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Chef2sail, see you Saturday September 18th evening.

I will post updates on the 1st thread post.
Ulladh---Click on the Post# and paste that URL back in your current post in the standard fashion.

First Post

It saves the pain of navigation for your hopelessly lazy listeners - or me anyway!
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I am at Cape May and would like any info on the best tide to travel up the bay to the C&D, I am asuming just after high. I Sail a Hunter 31.
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Depart Cape May an hour or two before low tide to ride the flood, or at slack in the Cape May Canal.

September 17th;
Cape May Ferry Terminal low tide 10:39 AM
Artificial Island high tide 7:09 PM
Reedy Point high tide 7:44 PM
So ride the tide for about 9 hours to Reedy Point.

Maybe overnight at Delaware City or behind the Reedy Island shoal then ride the next flood tide through the C&D early the next morning.
September 18, Reedy Point low tide 2:32 AM and high 8:13 AM.
Or just motor through on Friday night, sunset at 7:08 PM, but the canal is fully lighted.

Assume for planning purposes motoring all the way from Cape May, then time under sail will be an added bonus.

The Hunter 31 if weather cooperates should make Reedy Point under 10 hours.

Cape May to Delaware City is two days for me with an overnight at Cohansey Creek.

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NOAA has current tables that make the difference between the current cycle and the tidal cycle very clear. As Ulladh noted you will have a faster trip if you ride the flood up Deleware Bay.

Check the current tables. Since there are limits to the speed-through-water you can maintain in your 31 you should plan to leave Cape May about half-way, or a little earlier, between slack-before-flood and flood. You will have a boost of 1 to 3 knots from Cape May all the way through the canal to Worton Creek in as little as 10 hours. Cape May to Chesapeake City should be around 6 hours.

The offset between currents and tides varies from place to place based on the volume of upstream water so there is no good rule of thumb that works everywhere. A lot of local knowledge helps, but the NOAA current tables are better yet and have so many current stations that you can lay in a real good plan.

I bucked the current from Annapolis to the mouth of the Deleware Bay back in May -- 23 hours. Laying over in Cape Henlopen and getting some rest coming back, riding with the current, I made it to Annapolis in under 16 hours. That's a big deal.

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"Cape May to Chesapeake City should be around 6 hours. "

I did a double take reading that SVA!
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"Cape May to Chesapeake City should be around 6 hours. "

I did a double take reading that SVA!
That's about how long it took me in a heavy 40' sloop last May from Cape Henlopen inside the inner breakwater to CC. We were anchor down in Worton Creek by 4, starting from Cape Henlopen sometime between 6 and 7. The current boost is a really good thing, and a bigger deal in DE Bay than in the C&D.
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Cape May to Reedy Point with the right weather and tidal current is doable in 5 or 6 hrs.
Approx 50nm @ 5 kn = 10hrs (my hull speed with no curent assist)
Approx 50nm @ 10kn = 5hrs (8kn hull speed + 2kn current assist)

Yesturday I was bobbing around on the river at 1.5 kn SOG with less than 5mph breeze at slack and 3 kn with the flood tide. The tidal current can make a huge difference.
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