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beetoven 08-07-2010 01:11 PM

stuck keel
 
I have a Sandpiper 565 and the keel is stuck and will not lower down. The crew mechanism is fine except it rises up into the cabin when I try to lower the keel. Any suggestion how to get the keel unstuck?

CalebD 08-07-2010 02:29 PM

This is usually caused by marine growth in the center board trunk. Does your Sandpiper sail in salt water? If so then barnacle growth can easily jam up the works.
I'd find a long, thin, flat tool (something like a metal ruler) to use to dislodge any marine growth around the center board and trunk. Mask, snorkel or scuba equipment would also help.
Sometimes going out on a 'bouncy' day (when there are waves) can be enough to free up a snag like this. Unfortunately this is this also the kind of day when you would want your center board deployed.
Good luck.

delan 08-08-2010 08:59 AM

I don't have a sandpiper, but in my boat, the board is lofted on a steel cable.
I can pour a little bleach into the trunk from above, clears all barnacles.

beetoven 08-11-2010 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by delan (Post 630074)
I don't have a sandpiper, but in my boat, the board is lofted on a steel cable.
I can pour a little bleach into the trunk from above, clears all barnacles.

Thanks for the suggestion. I tried your suggestion but the keel is still stuck. I thought it might be barnacles but mayeb not.

beetoven 08-11-2010 04:16 PM

stuck keel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CalebD (Post 629835)
This is usually caused by marine growth in the center board trunk. Does your Sandpiper sail in salt water? If so then barnacle growth can easily jam up the works.
I'd find a long, thin, flat tool (something like a metal ruler) to use to dislodge any marine growth around the center board and trunk. Mask, snorkel or scuba equipment would also help.
Sometimes going out on a 'bouncy' day (when there are waves) can be enough to free up a snag like this. Unfortunately this is this also the kind of day when you would want your center board deployed.
Good luck.

Thanks for the advice. I have been using a long saw blade to slide up around the keel. There is some blockage in some places, have not got them worked out yet. Not sure now if it is marine growth or something else. I have the boat up on a slip way but it is hard working on my back reaching up. I have now cut part of the top casing off and will try working down the top. I have tried pounding it with a sledge hammer but it still does not budge. I will keep working at it until I can eliminate all the blockages and hope that works but I expect that my sailing season is over before it started..

Boasun 08-11-2010 04:21 PM

The bleach kills the barnacles but really don't remove them...
Remove the top cap of your center board well and using a steel yard stick or a flat piece of steel and slide it down between the center board and the well. This will help remove anything that shouldn't be there.
Also check the pivot pin and the babbit bearing that your CB swings on. It could be flat on the top and creating fiction in lowering it.
Also check the CB itself. If a low grade of steel it could have swollen with rust and causing problems from that.
Check your well box and see if the wood(?) is swollen from a lack of paint maintenance care.

beetoven 08-12-2010 09:59 AM

stuck keel
 
I have removed the top of the center board well and it is easier to work on the keel than from below. The steel yard stick gets stuck in some places and it is difficult getting it back out. I will keep trying to work it around. Some clearances are only wide enough for a saw blade.

If the steel part of the keel is swollen with rust or the well box is swollen, what are the remedies? Thanks

Boasun 08-12-2010 11:11 AM

On the steel Center board. Have the boat on the hard and drop it out and determine if it is salvagable or not. If it is, clean the rust off, pickle the steel then primer and paint it with bottom paint.
On the swollen wood of the CB Well you need to let it dry out then primer & paint it with bottom paint.
But while the CB is out, you can check for dry rot and other ills that may affect the wood structure of your CB well and keel.
Check the pivot pin for wear and the babbit bearing also. Along with the connection point of your CB Pendant.

beetoven 08-13-2010 05:04 AM

stuck keel
 
Thanks for the information. Now I just have to get the keel out.

TQA 08-13-2010 07:07 PM

Looks like you have top and bottom access so work a wire saw along the keel sides. You would need a friemd below and a good blocking job on the keel.

Use this wire saw $7.50


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