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Does "not registered" = "not titled" = The same as any floating thing found in the water?

In other words -- NOBODY OWNS IT. It could be your's as much as anyone else's. See my point?

Where is this boat? Maybe I want it. If I take it I'll try to anonymously contact the owner and ofter to give it back to him (by leaving it somewhere and then anonymously telling him where) if in the future he should decide that he wants it again.
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The boat could still be titled and it could even be USCG documented. It still has an owner, who has legal options to do things like sue you for damages if the boat should break free after you've been aboard it...from another post I wrote regarding securing other people's boats for a named storm...


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Be aware that "taking care of other boats" might put you at legal liability if you touch their docklines and the boat later breaks free and causes damage. Unless you're prepared to be liable for any damage those boats cause if they break free or any damage done to them in their own slip, I would highly recommend you leave them alone. It is very likely that the stupid, careless bastages who own them and neglect them would be more than happy to sue you if the boat does break free or get damaged in anyway. The USA is too litigious a society and the courts have too little common sense in them to make that risk worthwhile IMHO. Shooting all the lawyers that do frivolous lawsuits would be a good start IMHO.

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If it has a light anchor, it will move, soon. There is very likely a sad story behind this and it would be super to know that the owner and/or his family were notified before its too late.

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Admiralty salvage?

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Admiralty Salvage: The act of taking an elderly British Naval Staff Officer away from the paparazzi before they can get a picture of his face beside any bare anatomical part belonging to another person or animal.

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If it drags during storm and becomes close to causing damage to another boat or going ashore; you could then "rescue" the boat and then place a lien on the hull for the full value. Heck; this probably could have been done when it was removed from the mooring that it was squatting on, but it's probably too late now.

I don't know what the legalities are to gain title once you have a lien on the boat. With auto liens there is a certain amount of time to pay it off before DMV will transfer title.
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Another thought...

The guy who owns the mooring he was squatting on could place a lien on the boat for non-payment of rent.
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Well, hurricane Earl was not a big event at our anchorage. We did get gusts up to 35 knots, I'd guess.

The abandoned boat lived throught it, even with 2.5 miles of fetch.

I found out the reason why the anchor line had no chafe when I look at it (from my dinghy). Someone went on the boat and let out a few feet of anchor line.

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I once saved a boat in harms way, contacted the owner who then sued me for the missing fishing equipment no longer on board. I guess I should have left it sink. Next time I will simply make a phone call and let the coast guard handle it.
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In the overly litigious USA, this is commonly the response if you've gone aboard a boat... I'd point out that there's probably no proof that the "missing" fishing gear was aboard the boat before you went aboard.... and likely that the owner was looking to acquire such gear via litigation.

We had a transient try this stunt at my marina, but we had video of him REMOVING the fishing gear in question before the storm hit... Since he had filed a police report about the "theft" as part of his cover story, he got jail time... I'd point out that the cops don't like it when you accuse one of their own of theft and are lying about it. One of the guys named in the suit was a police officer in another town nearby.

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I once saved a boat in harms way, contacted the owner who then sued me for the missing fishing equipment no longer on board. I guess I should have left it sink. Next time I will simply make a phone call and let the coast guard handle it.

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