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5 Masted Schooner Discovered Off Monomoy

5 masted, 300 foot, Dorothy Palmer shipwreck discovered off Monomoy on Cape Cod:

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Interesting story-how many of you in US know that right up to WW1 The US was building wooden bulk carriers most of which were steam powered whilst the UK et al were building in iron and steel.
This was because that the US had plentyful supplies of wood wheras it wasnt until the early 1900s that it overtook the likes of Britain and Germany in steel production.
Also right up to the beginning of the 20th c the US primarily used charcoal rather than coal to produce steel again because wood was far easier and cheaper to access than coal.
These wooden ships were just as good as their iron and steel couterparts other than the increbible thickness of their hulls.
I was recently reading a very interesting book on the schooners -their lives and deaths -that ran out of Nova Scotia and Newfoundland to the Grandbanks and transatlantic to the UK.
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Interesting story-how many of you in US know that right up to WW1 The US was building wooden bulk carriers most of which were steam powered whilst the UK et al were building in iron and steel.
This was because that the US had plentyful supplies of wood wheras it wasnt until the early 1900s that it overtook the likes of Britain and Germany in steel production.
Also right up to the beginning of the 20th c the US primarily used charcoal rather than coal to produce steel again because wood was far easier and cheaper to access than coal.
These wooden ships were just as good as their iron and steel couterparts other than the increbible thickness of their hulls.
I was recently reading a very interesting book on the schooners -their lives and deaths -that ran out of Nova Scotia and Newfoundland to the Grandbanks and transatlantic to the UK.
Yup!
Even a lot of photos from New York Harbor around 1900-1910 still show an abundance of wooden ships, and wooden sailing ships.


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I was recently reading a very interesting book on the schooners -their lives and deaths -that ran out of Nova Scotia and Newfoundland to the Grandbanks and transatlantic to the UK.
If you enjoyed that book, I would suggest another that I hope you'd find equally interesting. It's called Thomas F. McManus and the American Fishing Schooners, by W. Dunne.

Available from Mystic Seaport. The photos and line drawings alone are worth the price of the book. But it's also a fascinating historical read. I especially enjoyed the chapters concerning the rivalry between the Canadian and New England fishing schooners, culminating in the race that Bluenose won.


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The rivalry between the Novies and the Gloucestermen went on for many years. Two excellent recent books on this topic: Caught in Irons by Michael Santos and A Race for Real Sailors by Keith McLaren.

In Nova Scotia they still have their priorities in order - BLUENOSE II is undergoing a major rebuild. Meanwhile here in Massachusetts our historic schooner, ERNESTINA, ex EFFIE M. MORRISSEY is struggling to survive. And in Virginia, the beautiful new replica pilot schooner VIRGINIA has been decommissioned for lack of funding.

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