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If your Javelin's main sail has a reef point then you should learn how to rig it with a reef. If not Denise's advice to just use the main without the jib is good.

Many 1 Class dinghy racers do not have reef points and they may not be allowed by class racing rules. That doesn't mean you couldn't add a reefing system as long as you don't use it while racing.

I was out on a Sunfish this summer in 15 - 20 kts and it was a blast! Lots of hiking out and very wet but getting the hull up on a plane is a priceless experience.
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For what it's worth, I've been out on Snipe dinghies with two on board weighing around 360 pounds in small craft advisories of 18 knots gusting 25. Waves were building to four foot with short chop inshore. Kept the boat upright. Rigging humming upwind and boat surfing on the downwind runs. Other than getting very wet, the boat handled fine. It all depends on your comfort level.

The same conditions saw several Lasers doing synchronized death rolls and a couple pitchpoled. The two-man boats with a decent crew onboard handles the heavy winds just fine. Strangely, I'm not comfortable taking my Catalina 27 out in those conditions but have no issue being on a dinghy.

Get out and have fun. The sail area of the Snipe is 128 sq. feet, by the way, just a few feet more than your Javelin. Find a heavier friend and go sailing!

Only advice I can offer is don't jibe in those conditions until you've practiced it in less windy conditions. A crash jibe in winds that strong can break things like booms and masts. Do chicken jibes or tack downwind.

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What kind of wind speeds to you usually reef at? Just curious... the only boats I sail on that you can even reef are 40'+ - the rest are obviously racers and it's just lots more rig tension, more outhaul, more cunnignham, more vang, more backstay, MORE backstay, ease sheet etc and HIKE!!!!

Full main + 100% blade makes for a fun day in 30! Even more fun when the kite goes up
Yes indeed, all good and fun, but clearly you aren't paying the bills. And the OP's talking about an O'day Javelin, not a high performance one design dingy.
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Yes indeed, all good and fun, but clearly you aren't paying the bills. And the OP's talking about an O'day Javelin, not a high performance one design dingy.
I wasn't trying to suggest it'd be a good idea in the Javelin! I was relating my general experience as part of trying to ask Denise about hers - an obviously failed attempt at trying to establish a bit of a rapport and find out more about a much cruisier world than I inhabit (and am starting to tire of)
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I'd point out that generally, you need to reef earlier in smaller boats... and that a 14' O'Day Javelin might need to reef in 13 knots of wind...some of it depends on how much experience you have at depowering a boat and some of it depends on how much movable ballast (crew) you have.
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Many years ago, we had an O'Day Day Sailer II. It was equipped with roller reefing for the main, but the main was sheeted mid-boom.
That meant you had to have an optional "claw" to fit over the roller reefed main, to which you'd reattach the sheet.
As has been suggested any times here and other threads, practice reefing WAY BEFORE you might need it.
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