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In the early 80’s a sailor that had just returned form the Bahamas told me he was listening to radio chatter and herd a yacht report finding a body on the beach on an out island. The authorities asked if it was black. Yes was the response and they told him “don’t worry about it”.
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In the early 80s a sailor that had just returned form the Bahamas told me he was listening to radio chatter and herd a yacht report finding a body on the beach on an out island. The authorities asked if it was black. Yes was the response and they told him dont worry about it.
Jeez - that's pathetic.


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Radio ask about someone being 'Killed.' That implies an act of murder.
No it doesn't. "Died" implies natural causes while "killed" implies outside forces, but there is no particular connotation of foul play over natural accident in common usage. "Murder" is a very specific legal term that defines killing someone with "malice aforethought" and is distinguished even from other forms of unlawful homicide like manslaughter.
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My understanding is that US-flagged vessels are under US jurisdiction where ever in the world they are. So at least aboard a US vessel, the answer is "the United States."

But someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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It is my understanding that yachts, like Embassy's, are considered territorial extensions of their country of origin, which is why Coast Guards (US and otherwise) need prior agreements with other countries to go aboard ships (and yachts) of such countries on the open ocean absent hostilities--and why a USCG may board a US vessell anywhere in the world. If one has a crew that passes away--of natural causes or otherwise-on the open sea, the venue of jurisdiction is the country of origin of the yacht. If the death occurs within the territorial waters of another country, that country is the venue of jurisdiction. If one suffered the loss of a crew at sea and had no way to preserve the body for interment ashore, one would, of course, have no choice but to bury the body at sea although that involves somewhat more than simply tossing the body overboard (at least if done properly) and must be thoroughly and completely logged or otherwise documented. It is not a pleasent subject to consider but one that should be discussed at some point in passage planning, particularly among couples.

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