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to write off a whole country because of a border incident in an area that is known to have problems is just plain ridiculous. That is like saying "I'm not going to the US because they have a high murder rate in Chicago"

Mexico is a big country with lots of people and most of them are very friendly. The USA is a more dangerous place by almost any measure unless, of course, you are in the drug trade since most of the violence in Mexico is aimed at them and not at us tourists.
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to write off a whole country because of a border incident in an area that is known to have problems is just plain ridiculous. That is like saying "I'm not going to the US because they have a high murder rate in Chicago"

Mexico is a big country with lots of people and most of them are very friendly. The USA is a more dangerous place by almost any measure unless, of course, you are in the drug trade since most of the violence in Mexico is aimed at them and not at us tourists.
Good point, but if you are mentioning Chicago, I'd mention something much more dangerous that's come out of there recently.

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As far as I'm concerned the Mexican government has never really been a friend to the U.S., maybe the people but not their government. I see the Mexican government as takers and hardly ever givers, and in time of any war they were no where to be found...with the possible exception of one small fighter squadron during WWII. The problem in Mexico happening now with the drug gangs, is just another example of how no one can depend on the Mexican government for anything...they couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag. How a country in such close proximity to the U.S. for so many centuries, can be so backward thinking and unresponsive to the needs of their people is beyond me. Our illegal immigration problem from south of the border is a perfect example, and no matter what the U.S. has done to help Mexico so their people could stay in their own country and lead fruitful lives, the Mexican government finds a new way to make life hard for everyone. The Mexican government is the first to cry over how their people are being treated in the U.S. (it's always someone else's fault), and the last one to do anything for their people. Now this is just my opinion from a person has spent almost their entire life along the western border, and I'm sure other people will have a differing opinion.
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When I lived in El Paso we would cross the boarder all the time, You could shop, eat and drink cheap. That was late 80's
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I can tell you all, since I am from a Mexican family, that we are very sad and embarrassed by all that is happening there. On the other token, I am in the military, and we do take pleasure in hunting down pirates. I just recently returned from pirate hunting in somalia, and I hope that we don't need to turn our attention south of home...
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I can tell you all, since I am from a Mexican family, that we are very sad and embarrassed by all that is happening there. On the other token, I am in the military, and we do take pleasure in hunting down pirates. I just recently returned from pirate hunting in somalia, and I hope that we don't need to turn our attention south of home...
You are the kind of people that all governments need. The way things have been escalating along our southern borders, I think it's going to be a certainity that you will be involved in something there. The inocent people of both countrys are being hurt by this domestic war, and I wouldn't be surprised if some kind of joint American/Mexican military action will have to be undertaken.
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to write off a whole country because of a border incident in an area that is known to have problems is just plain ridiculous. That is like saying "I'm not going to the US because they have a high murder rate in Chicago"

Mexico is a big country with lots of people and most of them are very friendly. The USA is a more dangerous place by almost any measure unless, of course, you are in the drug trade since most of the violence in Mexico is aimed at them and not at us tourists.
I loved Mexico when I visited, full of nice people. But you can't tour a drug war unscathed. Those guys aren't just shooting the competition. They're murdering policemen, politicians and journalists. Kidnapping is the national pastime. Can you really picture them saying:" Wait! don't shoot Sck5! He's a tourist here to assist our economy." ??
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to write off a whole country because of a border incident in an area that is known to have problems is just plain ridiculous. That is like saying "I'm not going to the US because they have a high murder rate in Chicago"

Mexico is a big country with lots of people and most of them are very friendly. The USA is a more dangerous place by almost any measure unless, of course, you are in the drug trade since most of the violence in Mexico is aimed at them and not at us tourists.
What in the world are you talking about? One 'incident'????? Where have you been?

And to say the US is a more dangerous place is flat out absurd.
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to write off a whole country because of a border incident in an area that is known to have problems is just plain ridiculous. That is like saying "I'm not going to the US because they have a high murder rate in Chicago"

Mexico is a big country with lots of people and most of them are very friendly. The USA is a more dangerous place by almost any measure unless, of course, you are in the drug trade since most of the violence in Mexico is aimed at them and not at us tourists.
Where in the world do you live that you think the USA is a more dangerous place? I have been to Mexico quite a few times and enjoyed myself quite a bit but there have also been very heavily armed police/soldiers around. I can tell you that I have never been on a US beach and seen a soldier walk by fully armed on patrol.
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I'm heading to México in three weeks for some sailing around Sonora and Baja California. I've spent a lot of time in Mexico recently, and have found it to be quite safe in general, and have met many friendly locals. I guess the real difference is that most of my time has been in and around the Yucatan, Q. Roo, and Chiapas states, where I think there is somewhat less violence due to the distance from the US border (although Chiapas shares a border with Guatemala, and Q. Roo with Belize, which are both considered to be heavy trafficking borders).

I confess, this news does make me a little uneasy, but unless this escalates substantially, I'm not about to cancel my plans.
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