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Hi all;

For those of you who have applied for either 6-pack or master''s licensing in last few years: what do you actually have to show the USCG to document your experience?

I''ve recently decided to log everything so I can apply for a license when I qualify. I''m recording most of the logs on my computer for trips I do on my own (actually, club-owned) boats. I log anything over 4 hours as a day, but only 1 per 24 hour period, as per USCG rules. Have not done any watch standing per se, so the 1.5 rule hasn''t applied yet.

I also crew on a race boat and have done some crewed charters. In the latter case, I had the skipper of the boat sign off my sailing log, since it was 5 days of sailing time. But all the rest of my time has nobody "witnessing" it, except the racing.

6-pack needs 360 days; master''s near-coastal 720. At the rate I''m going, I''ll log 360 in about 4 years (sigh.)

My logs record date, start/end locaitons, boat name & type, crew position, skipper name if not me. Anything else I should be logging?

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The USCG is lax on this subject; they didn''t question what I sent them however all of the experience I listed was on my CG documented vessel. If most of your experience is on a vessel that you don''t own or is not documented by the Coast Guard they might scrutinize your log more carefully. Getting the three character references was more difficult for me AARRRRHHHH!
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Hey Denr, I''m sure everyone on this BB would be willing to certify to the Coast Guard that you are, in fact, a real character.
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Hey Denr, I''m sure everyone on this BB would be willing to certify to the Coast Guard that you are, in fact, a real character.
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Darn, SailorMitch, You beat me to that line! It was way too good to pass up.
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My time (720 days for masters) was on my own boat, but I understand the documentation needed on other people''s boats has to be signed off by the boat''s owner. This was 3 years ago in Florida - may be different where you are. They were quite picky on my time - I was even asked to explain half of the time (took place during a 3 year cruise) and show each day at sea - not aboard.

There''s no substitute for sea time and the USCG knows it. I''m not sure about the OUPV, but with a Master''s license, I have to show 320 days of sea time every 5 years to renew.

Keep plugging away!
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This is always the #1 question.
Set down and add up all of the days you have sailed on your boat since you have owned it. They will not question any reasonable time.You will not need to produce a log. Prepare a letter indicating the name,reg number and size of the vessel(length and tonnage), number of days in coastal and/or nearcoastal waters, their geographical location, distance offshore. You will need to prove ownership of the vessel.
If you set this up as a form letter with blanks for the pertinent info you can sent it to anyone for whom you have crewed. Have them sign it. After you get the letters back add the total times on a summary sheet.
Submit all of this to document your time.
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Thanks Jeff, that makes sense.

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Thanks Denr.

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